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VolBeef88

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I will give my point of view of how the game came out and would like to get ya'lls take.

1. Hackney showed the WORLD that he has great talent. I know we VOL fans expected a much bigger win. But lets give props to a kid who was a warrior. He made passes that were perfect. Our DB's played fair. Hackney threw the ball many times where only his reciever could get it. Allen and Fellows both played hard and well. Don't jump on them for playing good. A great throw with capable recievers is almost impossible to defend. Great Job Hackney. UAB will win their conference and if they continue to play like they did against us they may not lose another game.

2. I was surprised that we could not get more push up front from our D-Line. I was very surprised. I know what those guys can do so I agian have to give props to the UAB O-Line. I saw our D-Line run through some very good O-Lines last year, so I know what they can do. UAB gave Hackney the time he needed and he executed well.

3. The QB situation was not handled very well at all. I am a huge Fulmer fan but I think he bumbled this one. I think you name a starter and stay with him, Period! I like both kids and think both are good. If you name Ainge you stick with him until he does something bad, not once or even twice. You mess up the whole Offense by changing qb's. The cadence is different, style is different, the hand off exchange is different. Not a good move on CPF in my opinion. I know that we all knew Rick was going to play. But I saw a much different Ainge when he came back in. Before he had sharp passes that were right on and he established a rhythem and everything was clicking. Riggs was running with attitude and the oline was holding well. Now, Rick played well. Not great, well. I know it is easy to jump on EA but remember he is a YOUNG man and emotions play more in College football than any other sport. This does not excuse his two really bad passes. His bad throws were so far off I think it was all mental. Make no mistake about it this kid is for real and I sure hope there is no EA bashing like some did Casey.

4. Play selection. I for one am still sick of the screen passes. I knew before most plays that if we were throwing it was either going to be screen left or screen right. The few times we threw over the middle it worked and for the most part when we went down field it worked. This game looked like a capsule of play calling from last year. I hope we do more verticle passing from now on.

5. Our special teams play has got to get better. With all the speed I don't know why we have trouble with returns and coverage. And our Kicking game is not up to speed. Little Colquit did pretty good but Willhoit is either on or WAY off.
6. The good points were there to be seen of you looked. Big Toe looked much better than last year. That is a good sign and I think the O-Line will be even better when we drain the swamp. Over all I think the O-Line looked alright, not great but alright.

O-Line= B-
QB= C- (generous)
RB=B
WR=A
D-Line= C+
LB= B-
DB=B
Spec Team=C-(again generous without punting it would be a D-)
 
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Originally posted by VolBeef88@Sep 4, 2005 11:03 AM

WR=A

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An A for the receivers?

No offense, but did you actually see the game?? They were dropping passes all over the place.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Sep 4, 2005 10:45 AM
An A for the receivers?

No offense, but did you actually see the game??  They were dropping passes all over the place.
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He's got a point. Too many dropped passes. If they caught all of the drops, then they deserve an A. The catches that they did get, not too bad.

I think QB should be broken down by Clausen/Ainge.
Clausen-A, cool head, not fancy. Knows how to keep the offense generated.
Ainge-C, WTF. Not worried....yet. Let's see if this is a wake-up call. Get it together man.
 
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The reason I gave the WR an A is becasue of the YAC plus the catches they did make laying out for BOTH qb's. I thought about a B+ but decided to go with an A. Making all the catches and adding no extra yards would get them an A. Making all the catches plus the YAC gets them a A+.

As far as Rick getting an A? I don't think so. There were several passes he under threw and one on a very critical 3 and 6 that wa high and behind the reciever. No he did not throw any INT that was his fault but he was behind and late on several passes. If you re-watch the game you will see that I am correct.
 
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I would give our WR's a B... They didn't catch the ball as much as they should have but they ran very well. Very evasive.
 
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The WR laid out to make both td catches and yes Rick was late on several screen passes. I still lay this qb at the feet of coach. I am a huge fan of his but this situation should have not occured. EA was named starter and should have stayed until proven otherwise.
 
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Originally posted by VolBeef88@Sep 4, 2005 6:31 PM
The WR laid out to make both td catches and yes Rick was late on several screen passes. I still lay this qb at the feet of coach. I am a huge fan of his but this situation should have not occured. EA was named starter and should have stayed until proven otherwise.
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Oh there we go. That's what we were looking for.

You saw Clausen as doing poorly BECAUSE you're an Ainge supporter.

Got ya. Glad we understand each other now.

Regardless what you think though, it's not Coach's fault your boy stunk it up.
 
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Yes... Ainge stunk. But I am still not sold that Clausen will do that great against tougher teams. Running a screen every other play won't work.
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Sep 4, 2005 6:42 PM
Yes... Ainge stunk. But I am still not sold that Clausen will do that great against tougher teams. Running a screen every other play won't work.
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Yeah we know. He'll have to lose 4 straight first. :nener:
 
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I don't think we should be so quick to dismiss Ainge. He did lead us to beat Georgia last season and whooped up on a not half-bad Ole Miss pass defense. I doubt all of that has been undone.
 
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Again, I'm not for "dismissing" Ainge.

I am for sitting his premadonna ass on the bench though until he learns how to play within the TEAM system.
 
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Besides the fact that people on campus have said he is an ass.....

did you not seem him play yesterday like he THOUGHT he was Peyton, but throw like oh, I dunno, Fulmer?

Ainge told JP reporters before the game, he was "better than ever". He played like he was worse than ever.
 
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Turning your back on Ainge in my opinion is stupid. If you look back to what he did last year as a kid out of high school he was quite incredible. Yes he had a bad game against Auburn, but did lead us to wins over Florida, Georgia at their place, and most likely would have won the game in Knoxville over Notre Dame had he not been knocked out. Clausen was 8-20 against Auburn in the SEC championship game. Should we have benched him for the bowl game? You can argue that we might have won that game had he thrown the ball a little better. No doubt our running backs came to play. My point here is not to even say that Clausen shouldn't start for Florida, hey that's fine with me. I just want what's best for the team. Some act like the coaches were blind during the fall and summer workouts and didn't see what Ainge is capable of. They started him for a reason... who knows what happened in the UAB game...nerves, expectations,, etc.. Clausen may start the Florida game and may throw 2 picks right off the bat and Ainge comes in and throws for 3 touchdowns. We just don't know. All I know is is that booing the guy and saying that he is not capable of winning the next two games would be a big mistake.
 
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Beltway are you seriously going to come on here and slam Ainge (of course you were quick to point out that VolBeef was an Ainge supporter and we already know you are a Clausen supporter). He is a prima donna because "some people" on campus say so? And seeing him play he "THOUGHT" he was Peyton? That's pretty weak imo.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge him. I think he will play better at Florida coming off of the bench.
 
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Did you see the game?

You're damn right I'm going to slam Ainge. Someone needs to.

Think what you want, but I know people that don't like him and his attitude. If you don't think he thought he was Peyton going into the game, that is your right, but I know what I know.

That being said, I have said on here all day, that Ainge is better than he played and that I simply want him moved to 2 because it is VERY obvious that he is not number one material right now. If you think he is, show me some stats that back it up.

Ainge should be great coming off the bench whenever he does. If it's Florida or later on. He needs to learn a little more and get a little better before next season, because Jon's gonna give him just as much competition as Rick.

I want to see Ainge succeed. But I want to see the VOLS succeed FIRST and FOREMOST.
 
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I havent boo'd Ainge. I haven't said that Tennessee would lose if Ainge were quarterback. I have said that Ainge isn't the guy right now, and if you believe the news reports, Fulmer is saying the same thing.

 
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Beltway, I obviously saw the game. I think Clausen should and will start the UF game. I am just not going to stoop to calling an 18-19 year old kid a "prima donna" based once again on these so called facts that you know and then attesting to what he was "thinking". Trash his play if you want, not the kid.
 
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Sorry that you don't agree with what I know to be facts. You don't have to though, and I don't expect you to. I believe the people that tell me what they tell me. They love the Vols and hell, they were BIG TIME Ainge people until they realized how he was. Now they wish he would snap out of it.

If he doesn't want to be slammed for being an ass....well, guess what he could do about that?

People did nothing (and still do nothing) but attack Kelley Washington the PERSON. What makes Ainge any better than Kelley? I've never seen you "protect" Kelley".
 
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KW is not on the team right now.

I don't agree with slamming kids or recruits personally. We have players and parents that read this site and I don't think it's necesary to make it personal. Just like I don't allow flaming of other posters. You can slam the play but not the player.

You want to believe but you could lay that accusation on a whole lot of players on this team and past teams. So what? I heard the same types of things about Peyton. You can believe what you hear but that doesn't make it fact, it makes it your opinion based on what someone told you.

I am sure Ainge couldn't care less that you are slamming him, it's me that has the problem with it.
 
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Well, I certainly think if you are gonna "protect the kids", you should protect them once they are gone too. What does it say to parents and recruits if we trash talk the players after they leave? What's the difference?

The reason I brought up his attitude, is because I think that had a HUGE impact on his play yesterday. He just needs to settle down, and relax. Until he does that, things are gonna be tough for him.
 
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beltway u are fighting a lost battle my friend. who cares what ainge is like as a person. look at peerless price, we love him for playing out of his mind in the fiesta bowl, but from all the stories i have heard he is an assh***. that doesnt matter. ainge comes from a wealthy family, he is probably good with the girls, and he is a starting qb for a top 10 college football team. u would act like a cocky sob too. so drop that crap. i personally think ainge will rebound and have a good if not great game against florida. and as soon as rick has a bad game, all the fickle ppl on this site will be screaming for his head next and saying "why wasnt ainge in?"

it will never be good enough, until they do what usc is doing.
 
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I don't think so. Once they go to the NFL it's a business. Right now these are student athletes and they are kids. Plus, Ainge hasn't given himself a nickname yet. :p

I just don't know how you can attest to what his attitude is. I see you keep mentioning him not being a TEAM player and don't understand how having a bad day qualifies flaming him.
 

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