Germany: Taxpayers to subsidize stay-at-home moms' pay

[Rasputin_Vol]

Germany debates plan to pay stay-at-home moms - CSMonitor.com

opcorn:

 

[rmsmith]

Women would receive 150 euros per month (about $190) if they decide to look after their children ages 1 to 3 at home

this is less than what it used to cost me to send my child to daycare. Since many daycare's in germany are gov't ran theres no cost change. Either they'd spend the money on the child in daycare or their giving it to the stay at home mom's.

 

[utvolpj]

that's a little over a week for childcare and close to what you can save on taxes in the US using an FSA

 

[rmsmith]

Yeah I think we spent 150. Not positive though. Wife is the CFO

 

[YorkVol]

They have a capacity issue because the government provides free day care so they are just shifting the money. Seems like a pretty cheap way to free up space.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Either they'd spend the money on the child in daycare or their giving it to the stay at home mom's.

Does it matter? It's still subsidized.

 

[rmsmith]

Does it matter? It's still subsidized.

No. it shouldn't matter. Thats why I dont know why people there are upset by it. Its not costing them anything extra

 

[Velo Vol]

Generally, parents can take up to three years off and still have their jobs guaranteed. During these years off, if the employer doesn't pay the parent, the parent can receive money from the government for up to 14 months, with the amount based on their previous salaries. The planned 150 euros per month would go on top of that.

Nice.

Is Germany's population growing? Or is it in decline like some other European countries?

 

[rmsmith]

Steady -.2%
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/gm.html

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

No. it shouldn't matter. Thats why I dont know why people there are upset by it. Its not costing them anything extra

:blink:

As opposed to not having the subsidy at all? Really?

 

[utvolpj]

:blink:

As opposed to not having the subsidy at all? Really?

what are the childcare deductions allowed in Germany? Is this saving/costing the govt money?

 

[rmsmith]

:blink:

As opposed to not having the subsidy at all? Really?

so youre saying do away with the subsidy and the govt run daycare?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

what are the childcare deductions allowed in Germany? Is this saving/costing the govt money?

It doesn't cost the govt anything... it's the taxpayers that are footing the bill.

so youre saying do away with the subsidy and the govt run daycare?

Yes

 

[rmsmith]

It doesn't cost the govt anything... it's the taxpayers that are footing the bill.



Yes

I'm for it but I'm not in germany

 

[YorkVol]

Germans, just like many Europeans, enjoy a variety of social services from free healthcare to childcare etc. It only costs them somewhere around a 60% tax rate...

 

[rmsmith]

0% Up to 8,004
14% 8,005-52,881
42% 52,882-250,730
45% 250,731 and over

 

[milohimself]

Germans, just like many Europeans, enjoy a variety of social services from free healthcare to childcare etc. It only costs them somewhere around a 60% tax rate...

And a strong dynamic economy with an extremely efficient regulatory framework... At least by comparison to the us

 

[YorkVol]

0% Up to 8,004
14% 8,005-52,881
42% 52,882-250,730
45% 250,731 and over

I stand, well sit, ok slouch corrected.

 

[Velo Vol]

Steady -.2%
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/gm.html

Then they've got a reason to give economic incentives for people to have kids.

 

[rmsmith]

I stand, well sit, ok slouch corrected.

i slouch at the desk too.

all i know is if youre making 52,882 youre getting hosed.
14% to 42%!?!?! yikes

 

[rmsmith]

Then they've got a reason to give economic incentives for people to have kids.

i actually like a steady population. there is no increased strain on infrastructure. no increased crowding.

 

[tumscalcium]

Well it is the "Hardest Job in the World...." Why not get paid by the government to raise your kids. Hahaha. Ridiculous.