Gilbert: Black and Gold the new Orange and White

#26
#26
We can keep on saying same ol Vandy or like what Franklin has been telling recruits we are gonna be a 30 for 30 special about the rise of Vandy.. Kinda sounds familiar to the Canes, but with the Canes they had the state of Florida to make it easy for them.
 
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Lost all credibility in sentence 5. I stopped reading affter that. In no way is Vandy a legitimate contender for the SEC East Title next year. Snd slthough s few recruits are heading their way, I doubt having 21 recruits (2 x 4*) compares to 16 recruits (4 x 4*) the Vols currently have (based off Rivals) (ESPN has them with 9 x 4*s and us with 3. the disparity between the 2 sources is a little strange personnaly) seeing as how we are in the race for several 5* recruits. We have a lot more room to pick up more 4 and 5*s than they do and probably will. And stop talking about Dooley. He is gone and we need to embrace Jones. Time will tell. Also, it is hard to say that Vandy is better when they have won twice since 2002 (2005 and 2012) 2 of 10 does not indicate a changing of the guard. Let's see what happens over the next few years.
 
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bamacheats said:
Vandy will probably need to at least fill a bowl game up played in its home town before its considered relevant. Can't be relevant in the state until they're at least relevant in their city.
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Not only that, their SOS was weak...they had to play us.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
What did any of that matter when two teams played this year? Apparently it's not hurting their recruiting much either, because they're crushing us on that front as well.
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Just because they're doing better now doesn't mean they'll be the better one on NSD. How many 5 star recruits even consider going to Vandy? Plain and simple, one good year doesn't make them a "powerhouse" - even if they're the better team in the state.
 
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They won 9 games this year. They wiped the field with us
Good Job Vandy...let's see what happens in the coming years

The thing we the VOLS need to worry about is that Athletes with a Lower GPA are accepted at Vandy and Succes builds on itself......Maybe this will be "their time" but I do believe that the VOLS will be back
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
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Literally no one is making this argument. In no way has Vanderbilt even put a drop in the bucket to matching what UT did in the previous 100 years. That's the history portion of the equation, and the odds are that Vandy will never catch UT on that front. However, that doesn't change the fact that in the here and now aspect of the equation, they are without question the superior program to Tennessee in every way. They are having more on-field success, have a better coach, are recruiting better and appear to have an administration who is more committed to success than that of UT's. It can certainly all change at any moment, but that's where the two schools are right now.
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Obviously they are in a more stable situation that we are in at the moment. We did just have to make a coaching change. But this sentence is just ludicrous. They are in no way the superior program.

Recruiting is not done. Rankings today mean squat. You know this.

We have an 8-2 record against them in the last 10 years. And this has been one hell of a dark decade for Volunteer football.

Sure they got one on us. That just means that we need to step it up and get better and put them back in their place. Their success against us may end up being what drives us towards winning again.

For once don't focus on the here and now. Look at the big picture. The chips are drastically stacked against Vanderbilt being able to recreate seasons like this one consistently.
 
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I agree that Vandy has been much better than us this year, and they should have beat us last year as well. Franklin has coached up 2 and 3 star players, but now he is getting 4 star players. I think Vanderbilt can compete with for the East next year, or at least more than Tennessee will be able. The only thing that has me excited is how postive Coach Jones is. Dooley would always say we are not a good football team etc....
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
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Literally no one is making this argument. In no way has Vanderbilt even put a drop in the bucket to matching what UT did in the previous 100 years. That's the history portion of the equation, and the odds are that Vandy will never catch UT on that front. However, that doesn't change the fact that in the here and now aspect of the equation, they are without question the superior program to Tennessee in every way. They are having more on-field success, have a better coach, are recruiting better and appear to have an administration who is more committed to success than that of UT's. It can certainly all change at any moment, but that's where the two schools are right now.
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That is where they were one month ago. I am not sure that is where they are now. I actually think the tide is already turning (did I just use that phrase?). We may have our answer within a month, or at least within 13 months, but the better celebrate while they can . I am pretty sure their days of joy are numbered.

My hat is off to Franklin, but my guess is he should have taken a better job this year, rather than wait. Just like Tee Martin.
 
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i2amavol said:
That is where they were one month ago. I am not sure that is where they are now. I actually think the tide is already turning (did I just use that phrase?). We may have our answer within a month, or at least within 13 months, but the better celebrate while they can . I am pretty sure their days of joy are numbered.

My hat is off to Franklin, but my guess is he should have taken a better job this year, rather than wait. Just like Tee Martin.
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Still bitter bout Tee? Get over it...
 
#39
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I didn't even bother to read this article because anything Gilbert writes is a waste of time. Hes still mad at UT because he tried to turn us in for cheating about 15 years ago and it backfired on him.
 
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Vandy beat UT b/c Dooley miscalled the end of the Missouri game - IMHO. Dooley's insanity at the end of the Missouri game deflated UT and took their will to win away. They knew they were not going to bowl eligible and that Dooley was probably gone at season's end.

So, IMHO, Vandy has Missouri to thank for their victory against UT.

I'm not saying that Vandy didn't play well and deserve to win. But I don't think Vandy has a chance against the same UT team that played NCState.
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
Obviously they are in a more stable situation that we are in at the moment. We did just have to make a coaching change. But this sentence is just ludicrous. They are in no way the superior program.

Recruiting is not done. Rankings today mean squat. You know this.

We have an 8-2 record against them in the last 10 years. And this has been one hell of a dark decade for Volunteer football.

Sure they got one on us. That just means that we need to step it up and get better and put them back in their place. Their success against us may end up being what drives us towards winning again.

For once don't focus on the here and now. Look at the big picture. The chips are drastically stacked against Vanderbilt being able to recreate seasons like this one consistently.
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It's not really just about the loss this past season. Vanderbilt is currently in the ascendancy and has been for 2-3 years. They may have already hit their ceiling, or maybe they haven't. UT on the other hand is in an uncontrollable tailspin and has been for several years. We may have hit rock bottom, or maybe not. I'd like to think we've hit the bottom, but IMO we're not really going to pick ourselves too far up off the mat until the AD and the academic side of the school make a commitment to fielding a winner and try to work as a team for each side's benefit rather than working simply to spite each other. The mudslinging in the media from the academic folks during the past month indicates that so far that's not the case.

I agree with the bolded portion and it actually makes my point. In order to be better than them, we must improve. Therefore, it's pretty easy to connect the dots and say that right now they are in fact superior to us.
 
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#42
My favorite snippet from the column . . .

The changing of the guard occurred Dec. 31 in the Music City Bowl
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There's no way he typed that with a straight face.

Props to Vandy for a good season and beating the hell out of us. But they'll never have a schedule set up an easier road to 9 wins than they just played. It's not their fault, but it is what it is.
 
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:furious3:Undeniable Reality is what he said in his article! This guy writes for the AP. No wonder we never get any love. I will go ahead and say it for you all.

Associated Press Hates Us!
 
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GAVol said:
My favorite snippet from the column . . .


There's no way he typed that with a straight face.
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True, the MCB isn't any sort of indicator. UT also manhandled NC State this season. If in fact a changing of the guard occurred, wouldn't it have happened sometime during the 3 1/2 hours that Vanderbilt actually spent humiliating UT on the field? I wonder if this writer is even aware of that game? It wasn't mentioned in the article.
 
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rmeharv said:
Lost all credibility in sentence 5. I stopped reading affter that. In no way is Vandy a legitimate contender for the SEC East Title next year. Snd slthough s few recruits are heading their way, I doubt having 21 recruits (2 x 4*) compares to 16 recruits (4 x 4*) the Vols currently have (based off Rivals) (ESPN has them with 9 x 4*s and us with 3. the disparity between the 2 sources is a little strange personnaly) seeing as how we are in the race for several 5* recruits. We have a lot more room to pick up more 4 and 5*s than they do and probably will. And stop talking about Dooley. He is gone and we need to embrace Jones. Time will tell. Also, it is hard to say that Vandy is better when they have won twice since 2002 (2005 and 2012) 2 of 10 does not indicate a changing of the guard. Let's see what happens over the next few years.
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The most glaring oversight in the article is on the second page, in the section under the "close, but no cigar" header.

"Tennessee’s Butch Jones came within the width of an iron railing of coaching in the 2010 BCS championship game against Alabama.

Jones at the time was an assistant coach on the Cincinnati staff of Brian Kelly."

Butch Jones was at Central Michigan as the head coach. This goon from the 'Boro thinks that he was coaching at Cincy under Kelly.
 
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MannyD said:
The most glaring oversight in the article is on the second page, in the section under the "close, but no cigar" header.

"Tennessee’s Butch Jones came within the width of an iron railing of coaching in the 2010 BCS championship game against Alabama.

Jones at the time was an assistant coach on the Cincinnati staff of Brian Kelly."

Butch Jones was at Central Michigan as the head coach. This goon from the 'Boro thinks that he was coaching at Cincy under Kelly.
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Great point. It's trash talk disguised as an article.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
It's not really just about the loss this past season. Vanderbilt is currently in the ascendancy and has been for 2-3 years. They may have already hit their ceiling, or maybe they haven't. UT on the other hand is in an uncontrollable tailspin and has been for several years. We may have hit rock bottom, or maybe not. I'd like to think we've hit the bottom, but IMO we're not really going to pick ourselves too far up off the mat until the AD and the academic side of the school make a commitment to fielding a winner and try to work as a team for each side's benefit rather than working simply to spite each other. The mudslinging in the media from the academic folks during the past month indicates that so far that's not the case.

I agree with the bolded portion and it actually makes my point. In order to be better than them, we must improve. Therefore, it's pretty easy to connect the dots and say that right now they are in fact superior to us.
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I see what you're saying and I get your point. But they aren't superior to us.
 
#48
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I don't see the big deal with vandy they finally beat us when we our led by the most inept coach in program history and now all sudden there the dominate program. We'll see what happens when our REAL coach meets up with them again
 
#49
#49
Franklin a top 10 coach in the nation? Negative

Nick Saban
Urban Meyer
Bob Stoops
Chris Peterson
Frank Beamer
Mike Gundy
Les Miles
Gary Patterson
Chip Kelly
Steve Spurrier
Mark Dantonio
Bill Snyder
Dabo Swinney
Kevin Sumlin
Steve Sarkisian
Jim Mora Jr
Paul Johnson
Bret Bielema
Brian Kelly
Will Muschamp

All of those and more I couldn't think of are better than Franklin IMO. I think he is a good coach, great motivator. I think he realized
that he had an untapped base in Nashville that he could build with selling staying home and building something right in their back yard. He also has thrown the no talent in tn thing out the window. He will not be at Candy much longer if he keeps winning, so enjoy it.

Fwiw the list is not in any order except the first one, and when I tried to type vandy my iPhone changed it to candy, guess it really is a smart phone!!!!
 
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Circumstances happened the last few years where Vandy went out and hired a great up and coming coach while UT hired a losing moron who had no business coaching in the SEC, Kentucky included.

Vandy and their fans should cherish this year and do everything they can to remember it, DVD's, books, posters... it will be back to business as usual for the next 97 years.
 
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