Giuliani's Lack of Military Service

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When was the last time it hurt any other candidate?

What will hurt Rudy is his position on guns, gays and abortion.
 
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Strange enough his surge in the polls is credited to popularity with evangelical Christians...strange that those who are completely opposite in views are the ones giving him the boost.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Strange enough his surge in the polls is credited to popularity with evangelical Christians...strange that those who are completely opposite in views are the ones giving him the boost.
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Circle the wagons and pray that Hillary does not win.
 
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Lack of Military experience didn't hurt most of our current elected officials. Cheney had 5 or 6 deferments during Vietnam.
 
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utvolpj said:
When was the last time it hurt any other candidate?

What will hurt Rudy is his position on guns, gays and abortion.
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His more moderate positions, while disagreeable to loads of repubs, are unlikely to hurt him with those dems who tend to be centrists.

Bottom line: He's the least of all the evils available to choose from.
 
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I wonder if anyone will bring up his infidelity, since Clinton was crucified for it? I'm guessing it will be a non-issue :unsure:
 
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VolHolt said:
I wonder if anyone will bring up his infidelity, since Clinton was crucified for it? I'm guessing it will be a non-issue :unsure:
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You consider twice being elected as crucifixion? His infidelity issues, while understandable of any man "married" to Hillary, were well known long before any run to the White House.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
His more moderate positions, while disagreeable to loads of repubs, are unlikely to hurt him with those dems who tend to be centrists.

Bottom line: He's the least of all the evils available to choose from.
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But I wonder if he gets the GOP nod without winning over the base. They can be a strong force when organized.
 
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utvolpj said:
But I wonder if he gets the GOP nod without winning over the base. They can be a strong force when organized.
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When faced with the reality of Hillary as potential pres, they'll find a way to unite behind the most electable of their crowd.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
When faced with the reality of Hillary as potential pres, they'll find a way to unite behind the most electable of their crowd.
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Well I was listening to a show yesterday where this very question was posed. The caller stated that, faced with Rudy vs Hillary, she would not vote at all. Said her religious beliefs would not allow her to do it.
 
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she's in the serious minority and probably has an IQ well south of the Mendoza Line.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
You consider twice being elected as crucifixion? His infidelity issues, while understandable of any man "married" to Hillary, were well known long before any run to the White House.
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The Lewinsky scandal was what I was referring to which took place during hsi second term in office. I'm guessing you're forgetting about those impeachment hearings.
 
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VolHolt said:
The Lewinsky scandal was what I was referring to which took place during hsi second term in office. I'm guessing you're forgetting about those impeachment hearings.
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Oh, I thought they impeached him for lying to the grand jury. I never knew it was for a hummer. Silly me. I can't imagine why anyone would bother checking into a situation where a man of near unlimited power took advantage of his position to enjoy some smokes with an intern. That's just everyday office stuff.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
His more moderate positions, while disagreeable to loads of repubs, are unlikely to hurt him with those dems who tend to be centrists.

Bottom line: He's the least of all the evils available to choose from.
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Centrist Dems won't help him in the GOP Primaries.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
That serious minority was what showed up to get Bush elected in 2000 and what didn't show up in 2006 and allowed a turnover.
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I'll assure you that the religious crowd showed up last year. Many other repubs stayed home to voice displeasure with the current admin, but the religious side still considers Bush one of their own and support him at almost every turn.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Please assure me....I await your info.
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If you're awaiting polling data, you're going to be sitting a while, but be my guest. If you're trying to say the religious crowd bailed on Bush because their religion wouldn't allow them to vote for him, which it exactly what you're saying, you couldn't be more wrong. The average repub is who gave him the vote of no confidence by staying home.

Give it some thought. Why would the religious right have bailed on him? It's your more libertarian type repub that bailed because he has done nothing toward being a small government money saver.
 
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