Good news folks, dear leader has declared an end to the war!!!

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gsvol

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I suppose we can expect our troops home soon from Afghanistan??

Oh wait, WWII is over too but we are still propping up the German economy with all our bases there.

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Barack Obama declares the 'War on Terror' is over - Telegraph

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(would some who cares inform aclg that fox isn't the source of this news?)

In a preview of the document, John Brennan, Mr Obama's senior counter-terrorism adviser, said that there was a "new phase" in al-Qaeda tactics in which terrorists who did not fit the "traditional profile" would carry out attacks.
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It was wrong, he added, to "describe our enemy as jihadists or Islamists" because that would "play into the false perception" that al-Qaeda and its allies were "religious leaders and defending a holy cause, when in fact, they are nothing more than murderers".

This coming from the guy who refers to Jerusalem as al Quds and ignores the fact that the Al Aqsa Mosque built on the temple mount was built by murderers!!
 
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Seriously Telegraph?

Mr Obama outlines a much broader set of priorities and methods than Mr Bush's tightly-focused determination to eradicate Islamism by any means possible and alone if necessary.

eradicate Islamism? Even Charles Gibson didn't know that was part of the Bush Doctrine.
 
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This administration's world view borders on delusional. Peace at any cost, apparently.

Hey, they went across the border quite a while ago.

Obama is oh for four on candidates he has backed so far but they think his one night stand with America is a life long love affair.

He has recieved more money from BP in the last twenty years than any other politician but wants us to think the gulf oil rig blow out is Bush's fault.

He was in California at the Getty mansion whose fortune came from oil, raising money for 'don't call me maam' Boxer and he thinks she is going to win also.

If they could just get back to merely delusional that would be an improvement for this insane administration.

Every word that comes from Obama's lips is a slap in the face to the intelligence of the American people.

We may be dumb but we ain't that damned dumb by a long shot.

Here is what Obama stands for:

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The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, Obama's father who abandoned him at birth was no poor goatherder, he was a drunkard bigamist who worked for the central bank of Kenya.
 
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Seriously Telegraph?



eradicate Islamism? Even Charles Gibson didn't know that was part of the Bush Doctrine.

Let dear leader set you straight:

“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit”
Barack Hussein Obama

“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country”
Barack Hussein Obama

“I have lived in a Muslim-majority country... I know, because I am one of them.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one’s religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“We are not nor have we even been at war with Islam”
Barack Hussein Obama

Not to mention that Barack Hussein Obama has said: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

News flash, those political winds turned ugly 14 hundred years ago (as if he didn't know.)
 
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Obama's rhetoric toward the Muslim world is not much of a surprise. He campained on it, was elected in spite of it, and has followed through with it. Talk's cheap and our friends and adversaries will side with who they think will prevail in the stuggle for their own religion, regardless of how Obama strokes their collective egos. It would be one thing if he was Mr. Islam in rhetoric but was getting it done behind closed doors, but it appears he's only been doing one of those in reality (and it ain't getting it done).

Oh, that and his posture toward Israel is equally toubling. I just saw on Drudge where Rahm Emmanuel was heckled in Jeruselum.
 
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Obama's rhetoric toward the Muslim world is not much of a surprise. He campained on it, was elected in spite of it, and has followed through with it. Talk's cheap and our friends and adversaries will side with who they think will prevail in the stuggle for their own religion, regardless of how Obama strokes their collective egos. It would be one thing if he was Mr. Islam in rhetoric but was getting it done behind closed doors, but it appears he's only been doing one of those in reality (and it ain't getting it done).

Oh, that and his posture toward Israel is equally troubling. I just saw on Drudge where Rahm Emmanuel was heckled in Jeruselum.

Israeli officials arrested the hecklers.

Barack Obama has removed all mention of Islam from the National Security Strategy document concerning international terrorism.

President Barack Obama sought to make American amends with the Islamic world after eight years of tension, declaring in a speech to the Turkish parliament that he is determined to have a “partnership with the Muslim world.”


“Let me say this as clearly as I can: the United States is not – and will never be — at war with Islam,” Obama said in remarks delivered in Ankara. “In fact, our partnership with the Muslim world is critical not just in rolling back the violent ideologies that people of all faiths reject but also to strengthen opportunities for all people.”

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Department of Homeland Security Chief Janet Napolitano has stated groups of extremists " .... too numerous to mention" have been soliciting returning veterans to carry out acts of domestic terrorism, saying the warning issued in the latest report, Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment , is consistent with previously issued reports.

(the report mentioned above is approved by ACLG and his ilk.)





News flash, it's the 21st century... Crusades are over. I know it for a fact. I saw it on the History Channel.

You must have watched a program about the Christian Crusades.

The Islamic crusades are alive and well

In the twentieth century islam was responsible for the genocide of over ten million Christians.

2m Armenians
1m Assyrians
1m Greeks
2m Serbs
1m Rwandans
2m Sudanese
1m assorted others including Lebanese

Those number don't take into account their avid support of Adolph Hitler and participation in the fascist genocide of 6m Jews.

As recently as two years ago tens of thousands of Christians were slaughtered in Kenya, hundreds were burned alive while seeking refuge in their churches, hundreds of thousands were driven out of the ancestral homes and presently live in refugee camps.

During the twentieh century islamic jihad (crusade) made great advances on six continents, Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe and North and South America.

Did you catch that on the history channel??

"We have four million Muslims in Albania. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe – without swords, without guns, without conquests. The fifty million Muslims of Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."
Muammar Al-Gaddafi, islamic dictator of Libya who achieved power by way of military coup d'etat.

"Europe is in a predicament, and so is America. They should agree to become Islamic in the course of time, or else declare war on the Muslims.”
Gaddafi

America now has over 1,500 mosques, 80% of those have Saudi funded imans who teach the radical wahibbist islamic doctrine of aggressive jihad (crusade) to achieve ultimate islamic sharia law which would give islam political, economic and religious control.

"The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers."
Recep Tayyip Erdogan - Prime Minister of Turkey, described by Barack Hussein Obama as he 'close personal friend.'

“These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”
Erdogan

Speaking to a gathering of Turks in Germany, Erdogan stated that democracy was like a bus: “You ride it until you arrive at your destination, then you step off.”

“Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you!…There are hundreds of other [Koranic] psalms and hadiths [sayings of the prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”
Ayatollah Khomeini

The Christian crusades of long ago are indeed history, the crusades of islam still have their marching orders until this very day!!

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

ps; There have been tens of thousands of violent terror attacks around the world since 9/11 inspired by islam and performed by muslims in the name of 'jihad' which easily translates to 'crusade.'
 
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Gsvol, I wonder how many christians died at the hands of fellow christians in the 20th century??

And I think I educated you about Rwanda... It was hutus and tutsis that killed each other, and neither are muslim. But I'm guessing you knew that but you need that 1million to add luster to your magical 10 million that you repeat over and over.

2 million serbs?? Yea, whatever. Wrong again.

Gs, "you can't stand the truth"

Let go of your fear and hate bro.
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Gsvol, I wonder how many christians died at the hands of fellow christians in the 20th century??

And I think I educated you about Rwanda... It was hutus and tutsis that killed each other, and neither are muslim. But I'm guessing you knew that but you need that 1million to add luster to your magical 10 million that you repeat over and over.

2 million serbs?? Yea, whatever. Wrong again.

Gs, "you can't stand the truth"

Let go of your fear and hate bro.
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So what number do you apply to; "Christians murdered by muslims during the twentieth century??"

You admit it was millions??

Your attitude is well reflected by Hitler and Stalin.

Hitler, when he began his 'final solution,' famously asked;
"who will remember two million dead Armenians?"

Stalin once said; "One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic."

The Rwanda genocide was along ethnic lines but today the NT Slimes gleefully spews the headline, "Rwandans turn to Islam."

Hutus were heavily influenced and incited by muslims, tutsis were primarily Christian, at the time Rwanda was about 75% Christian. (This is all part of the legacy of Idi Amin)

Islam benefited the most from the Rwandan genocide, they helped instigate it.

Their propaganda protrays them as innocent and brags that many are now converting to islam in Rwanda but the conflict suited their purpose just as did the Balkan conflict.

And we didn't even mention the murderous slauthering rampage of Idi Amin. Amin who was muslim and inspired by islam, eventually lived in exile in Libya then Saudi Arabia.

Muslim SS troopers participated in the genocide of Jews and Cristian Serbs in WWII, 52% of the adult Serbian male population died in one manner or another, many in a concentration camp there that was the third largest in the fascist death camp system.

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The fascists in WWII, which islam supported both politically and with muslim fighting forces, also killed about 5 to 6 million slavs from eastern Europe and those people were primarily Eastern Orthodox Christians, in work or death camps.

It isn't about hate and/or fear it's about awareness vs ignorance.

Islam is basically a hate movement that spreads violence where ever it appears. In islamic religious texts any country not dominated by muslims is called the 'land of war,' and is considered to be such by all muslims.

In countries dominated by islam today, violence and oppression are practiced against Christians on a daily basis. In countries with strong muslim minorities, assassinations and widespread rioting isn't a rare occurance and always the end goal is the same, complete and total domination and control of political and economic aspects of the country in question.

Give up your ignorance, educate yourself bro.

Review: ‘The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America’ by Andrew C. McCarthyPublications Family Security Matters

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Or maybe you should start with "Willful blindness, a memoir of the jihad."

Amazon.com: Willful Blindness: Memoir of the Jihad (9781594032134): Andrew C. McCarthy: Books

The most enduring oversight, however, ....... is the refusal among academics and political leaders to confront fundamentalist Islamic tenets, the 800-pound gorilla that is somehow always in the middle of the room when terror strikes. The jihadist philosophy that guided the Blind Sheikh is traced through generations of Islamic thinkers to the Prophet Mohammed himself.
 
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Dear Lord, Sweet Jesus where do you get your info from? The Rwandan conflict has absolutely zero to do with religion... ZERO! To convince yourself otherwise is ignorant. PERIOD. There isn't any religious overtones about the conflict to discuss and debate.

Hutus killed Tutsis and Tutsis killed Hutus... Boom! That's it.
 
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Dear Lord, Sweet Jesus where do you get your info from? The Rwandan conflict has absolutely zero to do with religion... ZERO! To convince yourself otherwise is ignorant. PERIOD. There isn't any religious overtones about the conflict to discuss and debate.

Hutus killed Tutsis and Tutsis killed Hutus... Boom! That's it.

OK, then let's say islam had no role in the Rwandan massacre, toss Rwanda from the list.

Which is more important and germane to the discussion, the Christian Crusades of a thousand years ago or the islamic crusades of the past century???

Do you think the last century can give us an idea of what to expect this century??
 
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2 million serbs?? Yea, whatever. Wrong again.

The 2 million, just during WWII alone, is accurate.

There is no way to be totally precise, those slaughtered have no way to tell their stories.

"During our journey toward the hill of Javor, near Srebrenica and Ozren, all the Serbian villages which we came across were wholly massacred. In the villages between Vlasenica and Kladanj we discovered children who had been impaled upon stakes, their small limbs still distorted by pain, resembling insects stuck through by pins."

The above quote is from:
"Assassins au nom de Dieu"
Author: Herve Lauriere
Paris, 1951, page 58

There well also death camps there during the war, Jasenovac concentration camp in Croatia was the third largest of all the Nazi death camps and hundreds of thousands of Christian Serbs perished there, the largest concentration camp in Bosnia was the Kruscica camp where hundreds of thousands more Christian Serbs died, and even the Germans began protesting the bestiality and brutality of the muslims.

Himmler's liaison officer at Hitler's headquarters, SS Brigadefuehrer Hermann Fegelein, described in person to Hitler the fanaticism and bestiality of the Bosnian Muslim troops, which even appalled the SS leaders but Hitler merely dismissed the report as 'sausage.'

Muslim and Croat Ustase gourge Serbian eyes.

You might find this interesting:

Balkanalysis.com Belgrade ‘41: Hitler’s Invasion of Serbia, 65 Years Later

George Santayana, in The Life of Reason (1905), stated that "Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Even the recent dismemberment of Yugoslavia is grossly misrepresented here in America.

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And in Ksosvo it has been the Cristian Serbs who have been ethnically clensed instead of the muslim Albanians who had previously been the minority.

Nato bombs killed more Serbian civilians that Albanians killed by Serb authorities who were trying to supress terrorism and defend it's citizens.
 
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Hutus were heavily influenced and incited by muslims, tutsis were primarily Christian, at the time Rwanda was about 75% Christian. (This is all part of the legacy of Idi Amin)

Wow... just wow bro. WOW! Idi Amin was the president of UGANDA!

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Wow... just wow bro. WOW! Idi Amin was the president of UGANDA!

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And Rwandan forces didn't fight in UGANDA or Ugandan forces fight in Rwanda???? Say that and you completely reveal your ignorance.

Your defense of islam is the most inept and incompetent yet and consists totally in denial, obfuscation and deflection.

The islamic inspired reign of terror by Amin spread all across central and southern Africa and persists until today, several countries were involved including Rwanda.

As I mentioned earlier, your grasp of the facts is sophomoric at best and I'm being generous to say that.

It is also a matter of fact that Amin's actions inspired the muslim northern Nigerians to practice jihad with renewed fervor angainst their southern Christian neighbors resulting in the southern Nigerian Christians attempting to secede from Nigeria and form their own country.

That conflict resulted in the slaughter or starving to death of hundreds of thousands of Christian Nigerians and contiues today as the muslims try to push south and eradicate both the Christians and any evidence that the area was ever Christian as is going on today in Bosnia and Kosovo and several other places.

I said; 'then throw out islamic agitation in the Rwanda massacre and address the rest', and all you can do is try to insult me personally. :snoring:

I suppose you :mf_surrender: in attempting to deny the muslim horrors perpetuated against Christian Serbia in the twentieth century???
 
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And Rwandan forces didn't fight in UGANDA or Ugandan forces fight in Rwanda???? Say that and you completely reveal your ignorance.

Your defense of islam is the most inept and incompetent yet and consists totally in denial, obfuscation and deflection.

The islamic inspired reign of terror by Amin spread all across central and southern Africa and persists until today, several countries were involved including Rwanda.

As I mentioned earlier, your grasp of the facts is sophomoric at best and I'm being generous to say that.

It is also a matter of fact that Amin's actions inspired the muslim northern Nigerians to practice jihad with renewed fervor angainst their southern Christian neighbors resulting in the southern Nigerian Christians attempting to secede from Nigeria and form their own country.

That conflict resulted in the slaughter or starving to death of hundreds of thousands of Christian Nigerians and contiues today as the muslims try to push south and eradicate both the Christians and any evidence that the area was ever Christian as is going on today in Bosnia and Kosovo and several other places.

I said; 'then throw out islamic agitation in the Rwanda massacre and address the rest', and all you can do is try to insult me personally. :snoring:

I suppose you :mf_surrender: in attempting to deny the muslim horrors perpetuated against Christian Serbia in the twentieth century???

I find it funny how you choose to ignore your ignorance. Am I suddenly the public defender of Idi Amin?? You're the one who chose to link Idi Amin (removed from power in the late 70's) to the Rwandan massacre in the 90's... NOT me... I just called out your B.S. on that. :crazy:

I am seriously perplexed by your lack of logic. And your method of using unrelated info and coming up with some far out theories. It's quite fascinating, if i may say. :crazy:

V,B!
 
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I find it funny how you choose to ignore your ignorance. Am I suddenly the public defender of Idi Amin?? You're the one who chose to link Idi Amin (removed from power in the late 70's) to the Rwandan massacre in the 90's... NOT me... I just called out your B.S. on that. :crazy:

I am seriously perplexed by your lack of logic. And your method of using unrelated info and coming up with some far out theories. It's quite fascinating, if i may say. :crazy:

V,B!

You attempt to take denial of ignorance to some sort of art form.

Why don't you go ahead and enlighten me about the evils of the Christian Crusades which has absolutely zero about the topic of the thread and current events vis a vis this regimes policy and rhetoric?

You're so seriously pereplexed you

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A simple question to which a simple yes or no will answer;

'Do you think the actions of the islamists of the twentieth century is any indication of what they may attempt in the twenty first century??'

)Bear in mind there have been more than 15,000 terrorist attacks just since 9/11.

I don't think they will change their goals one iota nor will politically correct overly sensitive rhetoric by obama and his measly minions do one whit to change things other than perhaps encourage an enemy that declared war on us and not vice versa.
 
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isn't the war in Africa has been over land. not a religious war but over farm land.

It's all about political and economic control.

Islam is the only religion that mandates by it's
own law that it should have both political and
economic control though edicts from it's
religious leaders.

Not only farm land but the vast natural resources
especially mineral rosources. Africa has vast
quantities of diamonds, gold and other rare metals
and rare minerals such as uranium.

Islam has made astounding progress in controling
governments in Africa since the end of WWII.

Note should also be made of the nexus between
islamic and communist influences.





gs/bo.

If it was congress they'd be fighting each other and themselves.

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