Good Read on new RB coach Robert Gillespie

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I just wanted a super recruiter who wasn't a wavealong as a coach at the position...naysayers concerning the Florida alumnus issue need to realize in the history of college football, the majority of excellent coaches teach at an institution other than their alma mater...Darrell Royal was a QB at Oklahoma but led their biggest rival to prominence...I know this hasn't been brought up but I wanted to head it off before the Gator jabs started flowing...he might be here one year or twenty but Gillespie is already a great hire!
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butchna said:
I just wanted a super recruiter who wasn't a wavealong as a coach at the position...naysayers concerning the Florida alumnus issue need to realize in the history of college football, the majority of excellent coaches teach at an institution other than their alma mater...Darrell Royal was a QB at Oklahoma but led their biggest rival to prominence...I know this hasn't been brought up but I wanted to head it off before the Gator jabs started flowing...he might be here one year or twenty but Gillespie is already a great hire!
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Agree. Alumni loyalty is overrated. Get a good coach, hang on to him, have success.
 
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butchna said:
I just wanted a super recruiter who wasn't a wavealong as a coach at the position...naysayers concerning the Florida alumnus issue need to realize in the history of college football, the majority of excellent coaches teach at an institution other than their alma mater...Darrell Royal was a QB at Oklahoma but led their biggest rival to prominence...I know this hasn't been brought up but I wanted to head it off before the Gator jabs started flowing...he might be here one year or twenty but Gillespie is already a great hire!
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You're the first person I've seen bring up an issue with his alma mater. But you post alot just to hear yourself talk, so arguing against an argument that hasn't been made is right up your alley.
 
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Hoss Diesel said:
You're the first person I've seen bring up an issue with his alma mater. But you post alot just to hear yourself talk, so arguing against an argument that hasn't been made is right up your alley.
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I'm not changing my avatar...and I'm talking when I post huh?...you know I addressed being the first to bring it up...and I keep posting posting posting...
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I recently read on a UF board that Gillespie isn't a Gator For Life.

Seriously, these guys have jobs to do. This whole VFL stuff regarding Tee Martin and Jay Graham is just ridiculous.

Glad Gillespie is here. I want to see continued improvement out of the RB's. I could care less where the coach went to school.
 
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Gillespie was a home run hire and he wants to be here with this staff. CBJ and his staff get it. The players like that the majority of coaches have been together for a long time. We will return to prominence under CBJ. JMHO.
 
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If you want to read something that will blow your mind about this Staff, read what the Col wrote on Tonys site today. Shows you what our alumn feel about our Guys!

Go Big Orange!!!!!!!!!!11
 
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From reading practice reports and players comments one can discern that our players were vastly under coached.
CBJ and staff seem to be jam up coaches. :yes: :clapping:
 
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butchna said:
I'm sure he meant in this thread...otherwise it would have been a DUMB POST on his part...I thought about pulling one of the threads but I don't have your mad skills gnm:p
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Exactly. And I am a damn smart genius.
 
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butchna said:
I just wanted a super recruiter who wasn't a wavealong as a coach at the position...naysayers concerning the Florida alumnus issue need to realize in the history of college football, the majority of excellent coaches teach at an institution other than their alma mater...Darrell Royal was a QB at Oklahoma but led their biggest rival to prominence...I know this hasn't been brought up but I wanted to head it off before the Gator jabs started flowing...he might be here one year or twenty but Gillespie is already a great hire!
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I don't know that I'd say it's overrated but I do agree that you hire the best. The trend in academia for DECADES has been that it's frowned upon to hire your alums as lecturers/profs and I've seen it go to the point where you simply had no chance of going home again no matter how good you are.

I think it took sports a bit longer to join that trend because family is a big issue on teams and continuity helped elite schools carry on an elite tradition but it's also been based on the same theory that academia has on hiring your own -- new blood brings new ideas from different schools and traditions and too much inbreeding (theoretically speaking) can lead to a bubble. There's also more press that reveals fine coaches in all sports who may be at less than stellar schools and more elite coaching pedigrees out there than ever before and so that's also been a BIG contributor.

I don't agree with going to extremes in either direction. You don't shut out alums (they should at least be considered seriously) but should proud of them (it shows pride in your program whether academic or sports related) but you also hire the best coach you can.
 
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UTProf said:
I don't know that I'd say it's overrated but I do agree that you hire the best. The trend in academia for DECADES has been that it's frowned upon to hire your alums as lecturers/profs and I've seen it go to the point where you simply had no chance of going home again no matter how good you are.

I think it took sports a bit longer to join that trend because family is a big issue on teams and continuity helped elite schools carry on an elite tradition but it's also been based on the same theory that academia has on hiring your own -- new blood brings new ideas from different schools and traditions and too much inbreeding (theoretically speaking) can lead to a bubble. There's also more press that reveals fine coaches in all sports who may be at less than stellar schools and more elite coaching pedigrees out there than ever before and so that's also been a BIG contributor.

I don't agree with going to extremes in either direction. You don't shut out alums (they should at least be considered seriously) but should proud of them (it shows pride in your program whether academic or sports related) but you also hire the best coach you can.
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Just to echo UTProf's sentiments, it has been a longstanding tradition in academia to not only refrain from hiring your own graduates to professorships, but also to, whenever possible, hire candidates from programs considered to be more prestigious than your own. Consequently, a Board of Regents university may be perfectly content to hire a UT Ph.D., whereas UT will strive to land Michigan, Stanford or Cal-Berkeley grads, for example. The real inbreeding occurs at the top of the proverbial heap, where Ivy League and comparable public universities must recruit from within the same narrow circles, unless they choose to go the international route.
 
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Hoss Diesel said:
You're the first person I've seen bring up an issue with his alma mater. But you post alot just to hear yourself talk, so arguing against an argument that hasn't been made is right up your alley.
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Check out post #5 in the "Gillespie hired" thread. It didn't take long.

mgu7 said:
yay, replaced VFL with a Gator for life.
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