GOP voters remarkably unenthused about candidates

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Poll: GOP voters still not happy with choices - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

This is very surprising. Only 23 percent of GOP voters are satisfied with the field. A full 67 percent can't even pick a candidate they'd be happy to support. 71 percent want a new option to the current crop.

Romney and Bachmann had support from 7 percent, each. And they are the clear front runners !! Cain got 2 percent. None of the others got over 1 percent.

I realize that Democrat turnout and enthusiasm is going to be significantly less than what it was. But at this rate it looks like the GOP doesn't have anyone that can energize the GOP.
 
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It's still early - I think when elections come around people will have found someone to replace Obama.
 
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would help to have historical context to see if this is way out of the norm for this time in an election cycle.
 
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clinton was a relative unknown at this point. when are voters every really happy with their choices?
 
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If the economy doesn't improve the republicans could run Gaddafi and win.
 
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would help to have historical context to see if this is way out of the norm for this time in an election cycle.


I was wondering the same thing but my recollection is that 20 months out from the general election last time there was enormous enthusiasm and huge crowds for both Hillary and Obama. Of course, that was a special situation, and not all are the same, anyway.

Still, I'd have thought that with the real antagonism out there towards Obama from the GOP, and even the general malaise from independents towards him, that there'd be some real fireworks going on at this point. Instead, it seems kind of ho hum right now.
 
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GOP voters have to like their options better than the Dems like their lack of options.
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We've discussed Rasmussen before. Not a lot of credibility there.

They are a lot more accurate than most. Especially with national elections. I've followed them closely and the only thing I've seen that they really wiffed on was sharron angle vs. Harry reid.
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They are a lot more accurate than most. Especially with national elections. I've followed them closely and the only thing I've seen that they really wiffed on was sharron angle vs. Harry reid.
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This. I believe they have come the closest on the last few major national elections.
 
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I was wondering the same thing but my recollection is that 20 months out from the general election last time there was enormous enthusiasm and huge crowds for both Hillary and Obama. Of course, that was a special situation, and not all are the same, anyway.

Still, I'd have thought that with the real antagonism out there towards Obama from the GOP, and even the general malaise from independents towards him, that there'd be some real fireworks going on at this point. Instead, it seems kind of ho hum right now.

Don't fool yourself. Republicans may not be super enthused about any of their candidates. However, they most definitely WILL be super enthused about the opportunity to vote for ANY of those lackluster candidates in order to oust Obama from office.
 
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We've discussed Rasmussen before. Not a lot of credibility there.

Yeah. You don't like what he reports therefore he must be flawed... we know.

What exactly have you "discussed"? He tends to be closer than most polls and especially for national elections.

IIRC, Gallup or someone had a similar result lately when they asked if people planned to vote for Obama.

The GOP does not have a candidate yet. The ones out there aren't turning anyone on... yet when asked generic questions about Obama... voters don't want him to have a second term. If the media were droning on and on about the weakest recovery from recession in years... as they would be if a Rep were POTUS... then he wouldn't even get the party nomination.

In short, Obama isn't polling well in spite of most people liking him personally and the MSM running cover for his incompetence.
 
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Yeah but look at the alternative, 4 more years of what we have now. Scary stuff right there.
 
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Old news. Since then, his polling has been way off and he's been criticized for modeling and for very poor question construction. Really weird stuff. In fact, in 2010 he had the WORST record of all major pollsters and missed one race by a whopping 40 points !

From Wikipedia:

Criticism

[edit] Nate Silver

In 2010, Nate Silver of the New York Times blog FiveThirtyEight wrote the article “Is Rasmussen Reports biased?”, in which he mostly defended Rasmussen from allegations of bias. [22]. However, by later in the year, Rasmussen's polling results diverged notably from other mainstream pollsters, which Silver labeled a 'house effect.'[23] He went on to explore other factors which may have explained the effect such as the use of a likely voter model,[24] and claimed that Rasmussen conducted its polls in a way that excluded the majority of the population from answering. [25] Silver also criticized Rasmussen for often only polling races months before the election, which prevented them from having polls just before the election which could be assessed for accuracy. In response, he wrote that he was “looking appropriate ways to punish pollsters” like Rasmussen in his pollster rating models who don’t poll in the final days before an election. [26]


After Election night that year, Silver concluded that Rasmussen's polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver's model. [27] He singled out as an example the Hawaii Senate Race, which Rasmussen showed the incumbent 13 points ahead, where he in actuality won by 53[28] - a difference of 40 points, or "the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998."[27]
[edit] Other

TIME has described Rasmussen Reports as a "conservative-leaning polling group".[29] According to Charles Franklin, a University of Wisconsin political scientist who co-developed Pollster.com,[30] “He [Rasmussen] polls less favorably for Democrats, and that’s why he’s become a lightning rod." Franklin also said: "It’s clear that his results are typically more Republican than the other person’s results.”[31]
The Center For Public Integrity has claimed that Scott Rasmussen was a paid consultant for the 2004 George W. Bush campaign.[32] The Washington Post reported "... the Bush reelection campaign used a feature on his site that allowed customers to program their own polls. Rasmussen asserted that he never wrote any of the questions or assisted Republicans in any way..." The do-it-yourself polling service is used by Democrats as well as Republicans today through a company that licenses Rasmussen’s methodology.
Rasmussen has received criticism over the wording in its polls.[33][34] Asking a polling question with different wording can affect the results of the poll;[35] the commentators in question allege that the questions Rasmussen ask in polls are skewed in order to favor a specific response. For instance, when Rasmussen polled whether Republican voters thought Rush Limbaugh was the leader of their party, the specific question they asked was: "Agree or Disagree: 'Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party -- he says jump and they say how high.'"[34]
 

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