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This. And I'm a liberal who accepts global climate change. Al Gore should not be the spokesman.
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I agree with you on Al Gore. That being said, I am certain more conservatives would believe in the real phenomena if it had been brought to the forefront by a conservative rather than a liberal.
It shouldn't surprise any reasonably intelligent person that most of the scientists that scoff at global warming are also proponents of intelligent design rather than espousing the theory of evolution.
I agree with you on Al Gore. That being said, I am certain more conservatives would believe in the real phenomena if it had been proven by more than a .7 degree increase over 100 years that was not very much within the range of normal climate cycles as PROVEN by direct evidence and written history.
It shouldn't surprise any reasonably intelligent person that most of the scientists that scoff at global warming are also proponents of intelligent design rather than espousing the theory of evolution.
I agree with you on Al Gore. That being said, I am certain more conservatives would believe in the real phenomena if it had been brought to the forefront by a conservative rather than a liberal.
It shouldn't surprise any reasonably intelligent person that most of the scientists that scoff at global warming are also proponents of intelligent design rather than espousing the theory of evolution.
Nothing here but a prejudicial red herring. Facts are facts. Temperatures are cycling consistent with the natural cycles seen in ice cores as well as historical records.
Sun activity is FAR and away more significant to any recent warming/cooling than anything being done by man.
Did you really respond with this to a guy lumping two sets of completely disparate scientists together, as if the one group knows shat from shinola about the other?This. We knew about the effects of global warming and greenhouse gases before Gore's movie. Now half the country thinks they are climatologists because they heard their favorite politician comment about it on MSNBC/FOX. Sad state of affairs when people confuse science with politics.
Research findings published by none less than CERN,
the European Organization for Nuclear Research, in
the journal Nature which holds cosmic rays and sun,
and not human activities, responsible for global
warming, isn't exactly what Al Gore would welcome
right now.
CERN, which created and operates the Large Hadron
Collider, has now built a stainless steel chamber that
precisely recreates the Earth's atmosphere.
In this chamber, 63 CERN scientists from 17 European
and American institutes demonstrated that cosmic
rays promote the formation of molecules which
grow in Earth's atmosphere and seed clouds, making
it cloudier and cooler.
There have been no weather events observed to date
including Hurricane Irene which can be reasonably
claimed to be outside the realm of natural climate
variability.
Now, you can believe as Al Gore claims that the
present warm period we are experiencing has caused
more hurricanes, more tornadoes, too much rain, too
little rain, too much snow, too little snow, etc., but
those are matters of faith, not of observable
scientific reality.
Until a month or so ago, we were near record lows in
global tropical cyclone activity, after a precipitous 6-
year drop following the most recent 2005 peak in
activity (click for full size version):
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Also, we have not had a Cat 3 or stronger hurricane
make landfall in the U.S. in almost 6 years now, which
is the longest drought for U.S. landfalling major
hurricanes on record.
There is even published evidence that the 1970s and
1980s might have experienced the lowest levels of
hurricane activity in 270 years (Nyberg et al. 2007
Nature 447: 698-702), and that the 20th Century (a
period of warming) experienced less hurricane activity
than in previous centuries (Chenoweth and Divine 2008
Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems).
Claims that warming should or will cause more
hurricanes are based upon theory, thats all. What I
have listed are based upon historical events, which
suggest (if anything) periods of warmth might also be
periods of fewer hurricanes, not more.
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I especially dislike Gores and others use of the
pejorative denier. Even some climate scientists
who should know better have started using the
term.
What exactly does Mr. Gore think we deny?
Do we deny climate? No, we were studying climate
since before he could spell the word. (I would
question whether Al can spell it yet, given his
academic rechord and the fact that he looks
buzzed out of his mind on coke all the time.)gs
Do we deny global warming? No, we believe it has
indeed warmed in the last few hundred years, just
like it did before the Medieval Warm Period around
1000 AD:
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So what do we deny, if anything? Well, what *I*
deny is that we can say with any level of certainty
how much of our recent warmth is due to humanitys
greenhouse gas emissions versus natural climate
variability.
No one pays me to say this. Its the most obvious
scientific conclusion based upon the evidence. When
the IPCC talks about the high probability that warming
in the last 50 years is mostly manmade, they are talking
about their level of faith. Statistical probabilities do not
apply to one-of-a-kind, theoretically-expected events.
I could have done better in my career if I played along
with the IPCC global warming talking points, which would
have led to more funded contracts and more
publications.
It is much easier to get published if you include phrases
like, this suggests anthropogenic global warming could
be worse than previously thought in your study.
In contrast, Mr. Gore has made hundreds of millions of
dollars by preaching his message of a climate crisis.
I would say that it is Mr. Gore who is the climate
denier, since he denies the role of nature in climate
variability. He instead chooses to use theory as
his reality.
Im not sure what global change means, to be frank,
or what an active research scientist is. I do know
what an activist research scientist looks like, however.
His name is Ove Hoegh-Guldberg.
I can live with this........dont buy into the day after tomorrow crowd
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