Government Shutdown

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n_huffhines

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As you probably know, the Dems haven't approved a budget for 2 years. They've been periodically approving legislation that keeps the government running temporarily.

Republicans see these bills as an opportunity to slip in items they can get passed. The bill passed yesterday by the senate (89-10) included provisions for:

Incadescent light bulb ban to be overturned.

Payroll tax cuts extended.

Obama mus make a decision on the Keyston Pipeline within 60 days.

Obama is pitching a fit, and said prior to passing he would veto if it has the Keystone provision. Is Obama really willing top shut down the government just so he doesn't have to make a decision on Keystone? Can't wait to see this play out.
 
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nbakerld said:
As you probably know, the Dems haven't approved a budget for 2 years. They've been periodically approving legislation that keeps the government running temporarily.

Republicans see these bills as an opportunity to slip in items they can get passed. The bill passed yesterday by the senate (89-10) included provisions for:

Incadescent light bulb ban to be overturned.

Payroll tax cuts extended.

Obama mus make a decision on the Keyston Pipeline within 60 days.

Obama is pitching a fit, and said prior to passing he would veto if it has the Keystone provision. Is Obama really willing top shut down the government just so he doesn't have to make a decision on Keystone? Can't wait to see this play out.
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I'm so tired of it all. The partisanship that goes on is beyond ridiculous. Whether its Boener or Obama, nothing can get done.
 
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Apparently the Republicans did not overturn the Incandescent light bulb ban. They pulled the provisions for funding enforcement. So essentially a ban, because they can get funding in the next bill that rolls around, and if your hardware store stocked up on inventory, you took a bad gamble.
 
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nbakerld said:
Apparently the Republicans did not overturn the Incandescent light bulb ban. They pulled the provisions for funding enforcement. So essentially a ban, because they can get funding in the next bill that rolls around, and if your hardware store stocked up on inventory, you took a bad gamble.
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I've never been a fan of passive aggressive defunding. I think they should either overturn a statute (straight up) or live with it. Also, sticking these measures into bills which have nothing to do with the statute is repulsive. Both parties are equally guilty. Apparently, it is just too much to ask of our representatives.
 
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nbakerld said:
Apparently the Republicans did not overturn the Incandescent light bulb ban. They pulled the provisions for funding enforcement. So essentially a ban, because they can get funding in the next bill that rolls around, and if your hardware store stocked up on inventory, you took a bad gamble.
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The real issue is supply. Will manufacturers retool and build inventories for a product that is banned but not enforced? Doubtful.

I do like the Keystone provision. Delaying the decision until after the election was/is pure chickenshizzle.
 
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volinbham said:
The real issue is supply. Will manufacturers retool and build inventories for a product that is banned but not enforced? Doubtful.
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I was thinking about that, too. Additionally, why would retailers continue to stock incandesecents when the possibility that enforcement will be funded remains a possibility?
 
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dreVol said:
I was thinking about that, too. Additionally, why would retailers continue to stock incandesecents when the possibility that enforcement will be funded remains a possibility?
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What would the penalties be for selling them?
 
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golfballs03 said:
What would the penalties be for selling them?
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Right now, nothing. If enforcement is funded, then there is a prohibition on the sale of incandesecents. Why would a retailer stock any quantity beyond visible shelf space when the product may be banned in the near term?
 
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I'm telling you - there will be nothing to stock. Look at the bulb producers: GE, Philips, Sylvania. Which of those do you think will start/continue making them when they are banned but the ban is not being enforced? Ain't gonna happen.
 
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i dont know about the rest of you but i like it when the two parties can get nothing done. the less they do the less damage can be done. i wouldnt mind seeing the gov't shut down for a short period of time. it would let us know what portions of the fed gov't we can live without.
 
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Yeah that's why they won't shut it down. People would realize which parts are worthless and want to get rid of them.
 
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volinbham said:
The real issue is supply. Will manufacturers retool and build inventories for a product that is banned but not enforced? Doubtful.

I do like the Keystone provision. Delaying the decision until after the election was/is pure chickenshizzle.
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Yeah, I overlooked that, though the bulbs are legal in other countries so there are obviously suppliers available.
 
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Cartervol said:
Yeah that's why they won't shut it down. People would realize which parts are worthless and want to get rid of them.
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Exactly. I always wondered when they say "essential functions only". Why isn't that all the time, and governemnt can't shut down by definition?

Get rid of all the crap that isn't essential for the government to run.
 
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