Grassley-Graham memo, supports Nunes memo

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Grassley-Graham were allowed the clearance to read all the FISA affidavits and applications, which are KEY to all the facts. Hence, why they've got relevant evidence to issue a 'criminal referral' to Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein, and FBI Director Wray.

If you've been following the Nunes/Schiff memo drama, you should really read the Grassley/Graham Senate memo. I'm taking a circumspect approach to this whole issue, but having read the document, the FBI has some explaining to do:

WSJ Columnist: Why is the Media Ignoring the Real Bombshell FISA Memo? - Guy Benson


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In a word, the Grassley-Graham memo is shocking. Yet, the press barely notices.

Rest assured: If a Republican administration had used unverifiable hearsay from a patently suspect agent of the Republican presidential candidate to gull the FISA court into granting a warrant to spy on an associate of the Democratic nominee’s campaign, it would be covered as the greatest political scandal in a half-century.

Grassley Graham Memo Affirms Nunes Memo on FISA & Steele Dossier | National Review
 
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Looks like it's saying the same thing as the Nunes memo. And it's by other GOP members. That's probably why it's not getting much attention. Not saying it isn't accurate, though.
 
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Well the Dems released their memo...let the fun begin

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Vol_Doc said:
Why irrelevant? The memo specifically stated that the investigation was underway for more than 7 weeks before the dossier was received. The investigation was initiated based on other evidence.

Edit: In fact, Page was no longer with the campaign at the time the warrant was issued.
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Why exclusively use the dossier for the Fisa?
 
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Why exclusively use the dossier for the Fisa?
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GOP memo said FBI's McCabe testified that without dossier, there'd be no FISA warrant, Dems yelled Not True! Now Dems have released their own memo, and it doesn't even mention McCabe statement. What to make of that?
 
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Vol0725 said:
GOP memo said FBI's McCabe testified that without dossier, there'd be no FISA warrant, Dems yelled Not True! Now Dems have released their own memo, and it doesn't even mention McCabe statement. What to make of that?
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Dems are not honest?
 
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Why exclusively use the dossier for the Fisa?
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As was explained, the dossier corroborated some findings from the investigation that had been underway since July 2016. McCabe never said it was used exclusively for the warrant. He said the warrant wouldn't have been granted without it. That could very well be due to the fact that it corroborated existing intelligence. We don't know, because we aren't privy to the whole warrant application.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
As was explained, the dossier corroborated some findings from the investigation that had been underway since July 2016. McCabe never said it was used exclusively for the warrant. He said the warrant wouldn't have been granted without it. That could very well be due to the fact that it corroborated existing intelligence. We don't know, because we aren't privy to the whole warrant application.
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Have they mentioned any other collaboration in the dossier, besides the fact that Carter Page went to speak at a known public event in Moscow?

A few members of congress have been privy to the application, and affidavits as well I believe. Why no mention of additional evidence in unison w/ collaborations of dossier? Seems odd is all.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
Why irrelevant? The memo specifically stated that the investigation was underway for more than 7 weeks before the dossier was received. The investigation was initiated based on other evidence.

Edit: In fact, Page was no longer with the campaign at the time the warrant was issued.
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The issue is the evidence used to obtain the FISA warrant that allows for spying retroactively on Carter Page and essentially anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign.

Link below explains FISA 2 hop rule

2 hops and a FISA Warrant

A hop is aka as a chain analysis.

Let’s say there is a suspect called Joe Blog

In a two hop analysis, When the NSA identifies a suspect, it can look not just at his phone records Joe, but also the records of everyone he calls, everyone who calls those people and everyone who calls those people.” In what is called a Chain Migration.

In a three hop analysis, Let’s say if the average person Joe, called 40 unique people. “Three Hop Analysts” would allow the Government to mine the records....this is a staggering number...of 2.5 Million Americans when investigating one suspected terrorist.”

And thus,

Why get a FISA warrant for Cater Paige after he has left the Trump Team? Because folks, the FISA Warrant is RETROACTIVE.

All the the emails carter Paige sent in the past to Trump Team members, combine that with “Two Hops” and you basically have everybody in the known universe that could of ever contacted the Trump Team.

For example,

Let’s say Paige sends an email, whatever to Kushner. He probably didn’t. But you get the point. Then you go to another “Hop.” Kushner, who’d he send an email to?

Now you got the whole Trump Team.

And thus, during the election when the possibility arose of losing...the FISA warrant and a couple of hops allowed for legalised spying on the opposition
 
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