Great perspective on the 2019 class and beyond.

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"Pruitt was dealt a petty bad hand — much worse than what his predecessors at Tennessee were dealt.

Tennessee’s football program sunk to the lowest of lows just before Pruitt was hired. The first four win season in school history, combined with the public damage that Butch Jones did to the program, made recruiting, and winning, on Rocky Top as difficult as ever."


Butch worse than Dooley?
I think so. At least Dooley was a young coach in over his head. Butch was just a poser.
 
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Article way of saying what many here have said. The longer the fall, the longer the climb.
A splash hire would have given us a little short cut in recruiting but that's not how it went. There'll be no short cuts. Progress = wins = better classes.

Now get on it, I'm not getting any younger.
 
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orangefloyd said:
Our class may be top ten before we are done.
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I hope you are right. So far, I've been a little bit underwhelmed with Pruitt's second class. He and his staff are often touted as elite recruiters, Pruitt being name 247 sports national recruiter of the year one year. These coaches are all well established in the southeast and have formed relationships with the 2019 recruits over several years. Yet his two year results (so far at least) compare less favorably than Dooley's classes. And Dooley even seemed to go out of his way to alienate high school coaches. So, that has been a bit surprising. Maybe we'll close strongly, and maybe these players will prove to be underrated. We certainly need to close the talent gap with Bama and Georgia.
 
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Yes. We like doing things the hard way and, of course, there is no guarantee that we will get where we want to be by following someone's rebuild plan for 5 years. Hopefully we get a few surprises in the remainder of the class and a good OC hire.
 
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JohnnyJava said:
I hope you are right. So far, I've been a little bit underwhelmed with Pruitt's second class. He and his staff are often touted as elite recruiters, Pruitt being name 247 sports national recruiter of the year one year. These coaches are all well established in the southeast and have formed relationships with the 2019 recruits over several years. Yet his two year results (so far at least) compare less favorably than Dooley's classes. And Dooley even seemed to go out of his way to alienate high school coaches. So, that has been a bit surprising. Maybe we'll close strongly, and maybe these players will prove to be underrated. We certainly need to close the talent gap with Bama and Georgia.
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Dooley's failure to recruit OL mixed with Jones recruiting smaller lineman to fit his scheme are two of the main reasons we are in the position we are in. We can all agree last year was a mulligan based on the hire being so late in the year. This year Pruitt was more focused on replenishing the OL with SEC caliber players and meeting needs, and the fact that we will finish with the top two tackles (barring Wright doesn't go else where) is very impressive.

I feel next year's class will be the best to judge by of the 3. Keep in mind we will prob finish ahead of Clemson this year in average rank per recruit. The DL is my only concern with this year's class, hopefully we will pull a couple good ones when it's all said and done.

Also, keep in mind where Pruitt was recruiting to before he came here. Now if you were being recruited to the best team in college football with a commitable offer, would you flip for 1 man or would you go get a ring that's all but guaranteed?
 
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JohnnyJava said:
I hope you are right. So far, I've been a little bit underwhelmed with Pruitt's second class. He and his staff are often touted as elite recruiters, Pruitt being name 247 sports national recruiter of the year one year. These coaches are all well established in the southeast and have formed relationships with the 2019 recruits over several years. Yet his two year results (so far at least) compare less favorably than Dooley's classes. And Dooley even seemed to go out of his way to alienate high school coaches. So, that has been a bit surprising. Maybe we'll close strongly, and maybe these players will prove to be underrated. We certainly need to close the talent gap with Bama and Georgia.
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We are not closing anything with Bama and UGA till we start beating the crap out of the lower middle tier of the SEC.

I don't know how in the f guys like you think that happens first. I don't give a crap about anything Fooley or Botch did...their incompetence at coaching footbawl and developing talent is why Pruitt is having such a hard time now.
 
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84Volfan said:
Dooley's failure to recruit OL mixed with Jones recruiting smaller lineman to fit his scheme are two of the main reasons we are in the position we are in. We can all agree last year was a mulligan based on the hire being so late in the year. This year Pruitt was more focused on replenishing the OL with SEC caliber players and meeting needs, and the fact that we will finish with the top two tackles (barring Wright doesn't go else where) is very impressive.

I feel next year's class will be the best to judge by of the 3. Keep in mind we will prob finish ahead of Clemson this year in average rank per recruit. The DL is my only concern with this year's class, hopefully we will pull a couple good ones when it's all said and done.

Also, keep in mind where Pruitt was recruiting to before he came here. Now if you were being recruited to the best team in college football with a commitable offer, would you flip for 1 man or would you go get a ring that's all but guaranteed?
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Absolute truth of it..good post.
 
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Build it right...and the 5* will come. Pruitt was REALLY close this year to getting some big enough flips to finish top 5ish...even with all the drags on the system...imagine how well he we do once we start beating the trash of the SEC, instead of getting drug by Vandy and Mizzou..which I mostly blame on a lot of Bitches leftover heartless players not wanting to compete and go to a "crappy" bowl.
 
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JohnnyJava said:
I hope you are right. So far, I've been a little bit underwhelmed with Pruitt's second class. He and his staff are often touted as elite recruiters, Pruitt being name 247 sports national recruiter of the year one year. These coaches are all well established in the southeast and have formed relationships with the 2019 recruits over several years. Yet his two year results (so far at least) compare less favorably than Dooley's classes. And Dooley even seemed to go out of his way to alienate high school coaches. So, that has been a bit surprising. Maybe we'll close strongly, and maybe these players will prove to be underrated. We certainly need to close the talent gap with Bama and Georgia.
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Coming of 4-8 and 5-7 and chance to finish in top 10 and you're underwhelmed...LOL
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Build it right...and the 5* will come. Pruitt was REALLY close this year to getting some big enough flips to finish top 5ish...even with all the drags on the system...imagine how well he we do once we start beating the trash of the SEC, instead of getting drug by Vandy and Mizzou..which I mostly blame on a lot of Bitches leftover heartless players not wanting to compete and go to a "crappy" bowl.
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How do you know he was really close to flipping?
 
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"That means incremental progress each year. The program isn’t going to go from bad to great overnight."

Is vol nation even capable of accepting incremental progress?
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Yes. We like doing things the hard way and, of course, there is no guarantee that we will get where we want to be by following someone's rebuild plan for 5 years. Hopefully we get a few surprises in the remainder of the class and a good OC hire.
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OK. Now let's look a bit closer. How much talent was at A&M upon Jimbo's accepting that job versus UT's when Pruitt came to K-Town? No comparison. Right? TAMU already had tons of talent...UT, nearly zilch. Next. Let's consider the VERY different W-L records. Hmmmmm. Different paradigms. Right again. Jimbo took up a position that was filled with positives while Jeremy took on a load of negatives. Pruitt had the nads to rebuild the Vols. Fisher was granted an opportunity to just reload the aggies burgeoning roster. Apples to big oranges...wouldn't you say?
 
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Jimbo wouldn't have let this team lose to Vandy. Probably would've finished SC as well. Pruitt is in a hole partly of his own making. We didn't force him to stay on Bama staff last season and we didn't force him not to have an OC before ESD this year. I still think he's gone by end of 2021, maybe end of 2020.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Jimbo wouldn't have let this team lose to Vandy. Probably would've finished SC as well. Pruitt is in a hole partly of his own making. We didn't force him to stay on Bama staff last season and we didn't force him not to have an OC before ESD this year. I still think he's gone by end of 2021, maybe end of 2020.
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Lol sure bub
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Jimbo wouldn't have let this team lose to Vandy. Probably would've finished SC as well. Pruitt is in a hole partly of his own making. We didn't force him to stay on Bama staff last season and we didn't force him not to have an OC before ESD this year. I still think he's gone by end of 2021, maybe end of 2020.
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Leave me out of your "WE"
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Jimbo wouldn't have let this team lose to Vandy. Probably would've finished SC as well. Pruitt is in a hole partly of his own making. We didn't force him to stay on Bama staff last season and we didn't force him not to have an OC before ESD this year. I still think he's gone by end of 2021, maybe end of 2020.
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God you are miserable, of course with that tat I would be too.
 
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So basically we are never going to be elite again unless we magically overachieve one season, which we will then have to immediately parlay into landing a stud class full of 5 stars, which whoever our unproven and/or budget rate coach at the time can't squander.

The circumstances were perfect in 2014, an amazing class of legacies and in-state talent... that should have been where we turned it around. But instead we got Nick Saban's coffee boy to squander it.
 
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