Greg Schiano and Penn State

#1
DiderotsGhost

DiderotsGhost

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2011
Messages
4,619
Likes
23,455
#1
With Greg Schiano getting fired at Tampa Bay, I have to think he will immediately became a hot candidate for Penn State and / or Texas. Particularly, Schiano would be an ideal fit for Penn State given his connections to the university, as well as his time coaching in the Northeast.

I suspect Texas was waiting out the end of the NFL season, to see if they might be able to pluck a top-tier coach from the NFL ranks, but aside from Schiano, can't see most of fired NFL coaches to be viable at Texas.
 
Last edited:
#10
#10
tim said:
Good at Rutgers does not mean anything to me.
Click to expand...

Can't understand the conventional wisdom here at VN. It's a lot easier to win at places like Penn State, Michigan, Florida, and Tennessee than it is to win at places like Rutgers, Temple, Duke, and Vanderbilt. Yet, from the way people talk here at VN, you'd think that winning 10 games at Rutgers or Duke doesn't mean much.

Rutgers was horrendous before Schiano got there. Schiano took them to 6 bowl games in his last 7 seasons; probably the best run in school history. That includes an 11-2 season in 2006.

Schiano has deep connections in New Jersey and the Northeast. He also knows Pennsylvania well. I never really saw him as an NFL coach, but he was a great college coach. If he can succeed at friggin' Rutgers, he can succeed at Penn State. Two years of NFL experience just gives him another selling point to recruits.

I think if Penn State doesn't go after Schiano, they are foolish.

This reminds me of how Pete Carroll was trashed when he was hired by USC. The perception was that he was a failed NFL coach, who couldn't succeed at USC. No reason Schiano couldn't turn Penn State back into a national power; at least after the sanctions have taken their toll.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#11
#11
DiderotsGhost said:
Can't understand the conventional wisdom here at VN. It's a lot easier to win at places like Penn State, Michigan, Florida, and Tennessee than it is to win at places like Rutgers, Temple, Duke, and Vanderbilt. Yet, from the way people talk here at VN, you'd think that winning 10 games at Rutgers or Duke doesn't mean much.

Rutgers was horrendous before Schiano got there. Schiano took them to 6 bowl games in his last 7 seasons; probably the best run in school history. That includes an 11-2 season in 2006.

Schiano has deep connections in New Jersey and the Northeast. He also knows Pennsylvania well. I never really saw him as an NFL coach, but he was a great college coach. If he can succeed at friggin' Rutgers, he can succeed at Penn State. Two years of NFL experience just gives him another selling point to recruits.

I think if Penn State doesn't go after Schiano, they are foolish.

This reminds me of how Pete Carroll was trashed when he was hired by USC. The perception was that he was a failed NFL coach, who couldn't succeed at USC. No reason Schiano couldn't turn Penn State back into a national power; at least after the sanctions have taken their toll.
Click to expand...


It's because somehow, because we're Tennessee, we're better than everyone else when in the past few years...we haven't done ****. Some of these fans live in the past.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#14
#14
bowlinggreenvol said:
Rutgers has been to 9 bowls, GS is responsible for 6 of those, and indirectly 2 more since these are still his recruits and he laid the foundation.
Click to expand...

Great. Look at Rutgers landscape. Who are they playing? Who have they beaten? Rutgers has the largest population base surrounding it and SHOULD be a good team. GS did what he did, nothing great.
 
#15
#15
tim said:
Great. Look at Rutgers landscape. Who are they playing? Who have they beaten? Rutgers has the largest population base surrounding it and SHOULD be a good team. GS did what he did, nothing great.
Click to expand...

Rutgers was horrible before Schiano came, and he single handily built them into a very good football team, one win away in multiple overtimes to a top ranked WVU team from a BCS bowl game at 11-1.

Also, he beat 2 top 5 teams, which Rutgers had never done. Also had Rutgers ranked 6th in the country at 9-0 after beating a top 5 Louisville team who won the orange bowl and finished 12-1.

Don't forget he was a DC at Miami who had a top 5 defense his second year so he has ties to Florida, as shown in the amount of FL kids he brought to New Jersey.

Also, we can point out the numerous NFL players he has put in the league from a school that quite frankly just didn't do that before he got there.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#16
#16
RockyTop22 said:
Rutgers was horrible before Schiano came, and he single handily built them into a very good football team, one win away in multiple overtimes to a top ranked WVU team from a BCS bowl game at 11-1.

Also, he beat 2 top 5 teams, which Rutgers had never done. Also had Rutgers ranked 6th in the country at 9-0 after beating a top 5 Louisville team who won the orange bowl and finished 12-1.

Don't forget he was a DC at Miami who had a top 5 defense his second year so he has ties to Florida, as shown in the amount of FL kids he brought to New Jersey.

Also, we can point out the numerous NFL players he has put in the league from a school that quite frankly just didn't do that before he got there.
Click to expand...
Thats pretty good and I hope he lands on his feet at PSU, I just dont think, if I'm a PSU fan, that GS curls my toes.
 
#17
#17
tim said:
Great. Look at Rutgers landscape. Who are they playing? Who have they beaten? Rutgers has the largest population base surrounding it and SHOULD be a good team. GS did what he did, nothing great.
Click to expand...

Read Diderots Ghosts post. You fit his description perfectly.
 
#18
#18
Yes to all of this. If he owns Pennsylvania, he will do very, very well.


DiderotsGhost said:
Can't understand the conventional wisdom here at VN.

Schiano has deep connections in New Jersey and the Northeast. He also knows Pennsylvania well.

I think if Penn State doesn't go after Schiano, they are foolish.
Click to expand...
 
#19
#19
I see Schiano landing at an upper tier college program. His discipline and ability to turn a program around will be paramount to a program like Texas or Penn State. I think Franklin goes to whoever doesn't get Schiano.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#20
#20
Not to beat a dead horse, but I'm shocked that Penn State isn't even considering Schiano. Some reports suggest that Al Golden isn't all that interested, leaving James Franklin as the #1 candidate, with Mike Munchak as the other option.

The most common complaints I hear about Schiano is that he's "hard to play for", never won anything big at Rutgers, and failed in Tampa. You could make most of the same criticisms regarding Nick Saban after he left Miami, if you ignored the LSU years. Saban never won big at Michigan State, and failed in the NFL as well. Saban was also "hard to play for."

Anyone who's remotely familiar with Rutger's history over the past 50 years should view it as a minor miracle that Schiano managed to be so successful there. I'm not a Franklin basher like many of this forum, but is there any reason to believe that what Franklin has done at Vandy is more impressive than Schiano's long-term success at Rutgers?

It's worth noting that Vanderbilt was in much better shape when Franklin took over than Rutgers was when Schiano took over. Bobby Johnson was underrated as a coach and built Vandy up from 'the worst program in all of the BCS conferences' into something closer to a middle tier SEC club, that could be competitive and pull upsets against top teams. It seems to be almost all but forgotten that it was Johnson that took Vandy to its first bowl game since 1982.

Franklin deserves credit for what he's done, but it's a misnomer that he build that program from the ground up. Bobby Johnson set a great foundation and Franklin merely took it to the next level. It's unlikely that Franklin would've been winning 9 games if he started with 2002 level Vandy talent.

Not saying Franklin isn't the guy for Penn State, but I'm shocked that people are dismissing Schiano so easily. If he can build Rutgers into a consistent bowl team, he could win big at a good program.
 
#21
#21
Schiano would be a great Coaching hire for Vanderbilt. In the college football hierarchy Rutgers and Vandy aren't too far apart competitiveness wise. So Greg Schiano might be very comfortable in Nashville.
 
#22
#22
Dave1967 said:
Schiano would be a great Coaching hire for Vanderbilt. In the college football hierarchy Rutgers and Vandy aren't too far apart competitiveness wise. So Greg Schiano might be very comfortable in Nashville.
Click to expand...

they normally like people a little more limp wristed
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top