Guys our season rests on the Kentucky and Vanderbilt games

Their top 4 receivers are all 6'4" or taller,
No they aren't. Their depth chart is public and their WR corps is pretty similar in size to UT's. UT's WR's are MORE athletic on the whole than theirs though Washington is pretty speedy.

and very athletic (I believe one was the #1 WR in his class),
DGB has been somewhat of a disappointment to this point. He has failed to learn how to use his athleticism and size to make plays on a consistent basis.

and we all know they have two QB's who are very capable, to say the least.
Really? Franklin was having a very good season prior to his injury. I expect to see him this Saturday night in relief of Mauk.

Mauk has hit a couple of "lucky" passes that have inflated his yardage. He completes under 50% so far and has two INT's to go with 2 TD's.

While he is mobile, he has not run. Part of that is because they do not have a good back up.

Regarding the experience comment, that's true, but you have to remember that even though we're 8 games into the season, our QB only has 2 quarters of experience. I have confidence in Dobbs, but don't be surprised if he makes some rookie mistakes. He's going to be facing a pretty nasty pass rush from Mizzou.
ONLY if UT's OL is poorly coached or fails to execute what they learn from film study vs Mizzou. Again, this is MU's system on D vs UT's talent.

The O-line and receivers need to step up and make sure they're on their A-game with blitz pick ups and hot routes.

There are always risks with young players but Dobbs' intelligence and cool should serve the Vols better than avg. He needs to do enough to keep them off balance so that UT's big OL can lean on Mizzou's DL for awhile.
 
We must win those two...but I'd love a road win against a top 20 team...it will come, let's hope its this weekend...
 
I expect to win the National Championship. But if your expectations are not met, what are you going to do? Pee in CBJ's soup? Scream until you are hoarse? Throw a hissy fit? Moon the players as they run through the T?

WHAT????????????????????

Please don't moon the players. Jaime Whitted might sue us again.
 
I understand all that you are saying but EXCUSE ME IF I DON'T GIVE UP ON THE Missouri and Auburn games at least until they are played. :rock:

Agreed. Don't give up until it's done. Thank God we've seen that attitude from this team as well.
 
We've been shown, via post and some media, of improvements under the last two coaches. None of which reflected any improvement in the bottom line of wins and loses. If you want to accept the dog and pony shows being presented, so be it. After the last two coaches failures, I'm a bit on edge regarding what is actually going on. Improvements should reflect in the win/loss column. I don't see that.

Well...you're wrong. Sorry, its not just all about wins and losses.
 
No they aren't. Their depth chart is public and their WR corps is pretty similar in size to UT's. UT's WR's are MORE athletic on the whole than theirs though Washington is pretty speedy.

DGB has been somewhat of a disappointment to this point. He has failed to learn how to use his athleticism and size to make plays on a consistent basis.

Really? Franklin was having a very good season prior to his injury. I expect to see him this Saturday night in relief of Mauk.

Mauk has hit a couple of "lucky" passes that have inflated his yardage. He completes under 50% so far and has two INT's to go with 2 TD's.

While he is mobile, he has not run. Part of that is because they do not have a good back up.

ONLY if UT's OL is poorly coached or fails to execute what they learn from film study vs Mizzou. Again, this is MU's system on D vs UT's talent.



There are always risks with young players but Dobbs' intelligence and cool should serve the Vols better than avg. He needs to do enough to keep them off balance so that UT's big OL can lean on Mizzou's DL for awhile.

Good Lord. I said I disagreed with one comment about talent, and you get all defensive and start trying to find something wrong with everything else I said.

I prefer to watch the games and see the players in action to judge talent, rather than look at recruiting rankings, and asterisks grouped together in 2's-5's. You can claim to not be a star gazer all you want, but what you said just prior to that would suggest otherwise. To each his own.

My bad. Their top 3 wide receivers are 6'4" or taller. L'Damian Washington at 6'4", Marcus Lucas at 6'5", and Green-Beckham at 6'6". Forgive me for that grave error of saying 4 instead of 3. How dare I.

"Somewhat of a disappointment" or not, he remains a very athletic threat that can score at any moment. Same with Washington.

Again, you can go by stats all you want, and then refer to passes as "lucky" when they don't back up the point you're trying to make, but I've watched Mauk play, and yes, he is very capable. He may not run a lot, but the threat is there and he has shown he can do it effectively with a 17 yard TD run against Florida, a 13 yard run against SC, and a key 6 yard 3rd down conversion against UGA on the first play he was in the game.

But that's all besides the point. I didn't say he was a Heisman contender. I said he was capable. He is.

As for your comment about Franklin...not sure what your point is there--I said nothing bad about him...at all.

Oh, and PARDON ME for suggesting that a true freshman quarterback, starting his first collegiate game ever, in the sec, on the road, in the middle of the season, when his only career experience is 2 quarters the prior week, might, just MIGHT make some rookie mistakes.

Dude I absolutely love Dobbs as a QB. I thought he looked great against Alabama, and I think he'll play great against Mizzou, but I also believe it's unreasonable to expect, based on 2 quarters of play, a freshman qb in his first ever start to not make some freshman mistakes. If you take issue with that...:no:
 
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Dude I absolutely love Dobbs as a QB. I thought he looked great against Alabama, and I think he'll play great against Mizzou, but I also believe it's unreasonable to expect, based on 2 quarters of play, a freshman qb in his first ever start to not make some freshman mistakes. If you take issue with that...:no:

All those kinks should have been worked out at the Pop Warner level or someone wasn't doing their job. ;)
 
I also think Vandy and KY determine our bowl eligibility. Our fanbase has some unrealistic expectations. Anybody that went to the open practice should have left the stadium knowing we were in trouble. The offense was not good, and that is still a factor. Let's get some top recruits in and see how things go in a year or two. I'm willing to bet in 2015 we will win at least 9 games.
 
I also think Vandy and KY determine our bowl eligibility. Our fanbase has some unrealistic expectations. Anybody that went to the open practice should have left the stadium knowing we were in trouble. The offense was not good, and that is still a factor. Let's get some top recruits in and see how things go in a year or two. I'm willing to bet in 2015 we will win at least 9 games.
I don't see the harm in holding out hope that Dobbs is a gamer. If we happen to have less points on the scoreboard when the final whistle blows we should all realize that we have not lost anything.
 
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I also think Vandy and KY determine our bowl eligibility. Our fanbase has some unrealistic expectations. Anybody that went to the open practice should have left the stadium knowing we were in trouble. The offense was not good, and that is still a factor. Let's get some top recruits in and see how things go in a year or two. I'm willing to bet in 2015 we will win at least 9 games.
So glad our seniors aren't thinking like that.
 
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I also think Vandy and KY determine our bowl eligibility. Our fanbase has some unrealistic expectations. Anybody that went to the open practice should have left the stadium knowing we were in trouble. The offense was not good, and that is still a factor. Let's get some top recruits in and see how things go in a year or two. I'm willing to bet in 2015 we will win at least 9 games.

Can you elaborate a little on what you saw at the practice? I'm interested to hear from someone who was there.
 
After reading the responding posts, it's sad that some are setting the bar so low. A good season is 9-4 or 10-4. Somewhere around there. We haven't seen that in 6-7 years. And to many at that time, that wasn't good enough. I won't accept less at this time.

if we had gone 6-6, 7-5, 7-5 the last 3 years then 9-4 would be good... but since we sucked it the last 3 years 6-6 is good.


perspective
 
Am I the only one that believes the Auburn game will be tougher to win than Missouri?

Maybe not the only one. I think the Mizzou game is more difficult because its on the road. The Auburn game would be a huge win at the point vs a better, more talented team. But we've played very well at home so I like our chances better vs them.
 
Am I the only one that believes the Auburn game will be tougher to win than Missouri?

I agree. Our best hope against AU is that it's Homecoming at Neyland. Bad juju to lose Homecoming... which is why we generally schedule an easier opponent.
 
Sorry NegaVols but this time you're simply wrong.

Color us delusional if you like but we don't have to be delusional, we just love our Vols and now we've seen enough that we BELIEVE!!!

Our players are hungry and they now BELIEVE!

Dobbs has a brilliant mind and a photographic memory and a tiny bit of SEC experience against Bama, the number 1 team in the country and he now BELIEVES!

Look what our Vols have already faced and learned from and maybe then you'll start to BELIEVE too...

# 1 bama at their house
#2 Oregon at their house
#6 Georgia in our house and just 4 inches away from a WIN
#9 USCe in oiur house and a WIN

The intelligence of Dobbs will trick and fool the other teams and they'll get DobbsSnockered all game long and end up getting bUTchSlapped as team by team our Vols WIN the rest of the games this season and stun the world because coaches and players are tempered by the hottest game fire in the land and now they all BELIEVE!

Our Seniors are at the end of their college careers and will demand more from everyone and are driven for non-stop success the rest of this season because they BELIEVE that our Vols CAN and WILL do it right the rest of this season.

Whatever the mind can concieve and BELIEVE with work and consistency it CAN achieve!

Some of us now BELIEVE and until some team can prove us wrong we'll continue to BELIEVE that our Vols can achieve.

We just simply ARE the Tennessee Vols and we're now starting to rise back up back to the level that our traditions demand.

Even if the scoreboard proves us wrong in the end there's NEVER anything wrong for coaches, players or fans to be optomistic and to BELIEVE!

I choose to BELIEVE!!!

#BrickbyBrick...VFL...GBO!!!
 
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After reading the responding posts, it's sad that some are setting the bar so low. A good season is 9-4 or 10-4. Somewhere around there. We haven't seen that in 6-7 years. And to many at that time, that wasn't good enough. I won't accept less at this time.

You can't cherry pick the record from one era to compare to another or use that as a basis for what you are willing to 'accept.'

The outcome of any season is based on the relative strength of the team and that of the competition. This year, our team is not very strong and the schedule is ridiculous. Going 6 and 6 for a team with little depth, a new coach, and, now, a true freshman QB, against some of the best teams in the Nation is a reasonable performance. I'm not trying to pull the 'go be a Bama fan' line by saying this but if 6-6 is not good enough for you in light of that, you need to be patient and give CBJ enough time to re-build. He will produce better results but it can't happen over night.

I'd love to see a better record too but it has to be tempered by reality.

PS....Before the Auburn references, they may have had the only guy in D1 worse than Dooley. They had plenty of talent but no direction. Malzahn walked into a different situation.
 
For us to get to 6 wins this year, we had to win 1 against FL, UGA, USCe, Mizzou, or Auburn. Assuming we beat Vandy and Kentucky. We won that game against USCe, which is very good because I don't think anyone predicted Mizzou or Auburn would be top 10-15 teams this year. I still hope we finish winning 3 out of the last 4. But the USCe win was huge for us this year.
 
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You can't cherry pick the record from one era to compare to another or use that as a basis for what you are willing to 'accept.'

The outcome of any season is based on the relative strength of the team and that of the competition. This year, our team is not very strong and the schedule is ridiculous. Going 6 and 6 for a team with little depth, a new coach, and, now, a true freshman QB, against some of the best teams in the Nation is a reasonable performance. I'm not trying to pull the 'go be a Bama fan' line by saying this but if 6-6 is not good enough for you in light of that, you need to be patient and give CBJ enough time to re-build. He will produce better results but it can't happen over night.

I'd love to see a better record too but it has to be tempered by reality.

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I'm expecting 9-4.
If it doesn't happen, I'll 'snap n' clear.'
 
You guys need to quit trying to prepay losses. I believe we will pull at a close one in Columbia. It is payback time.

Their loss last week hurts much more. We were suppose to get our buts kicked and we did. They were slight favorites and blew a 17 point 4th quarter lead. They have blown game hangover and we will take advantage!

We spotted them some dooly last year and now payback is a Butch!
 
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SIAP, but I believe Vol-un-tear was referring to Kentucky and Vandy.

That being said, if I'm wrong, and he was calling the posters losers, then I completely agree with you, mcflurry. So tired of seeing Vol fans attack other Vol fans simply because they don't agree with their own views/opinions. It has caused me to take several different long vacations from these boards.

Yes sir. I apologize for the confusion. No problem. I was referring to UK and Candy as the pathetic losers. I hope this is clear.
 
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