Hall of Fame Nominees - Who do you vote for?

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Here are the 25 nominees for the 2011 Hall of Fame. First who would you replace on the list and by who. Second, who are your five picks for the next Hall of Fame induction?

• Bobby Allison, 1983 Cup Series champion and winner of 84 races
• Buck Baker, first driver to win consecutive Cup Series championships
• Red Byron, first Cup Series champion, in 1949
• Richard Childress, 11-time car owner champion in NASCAR's three national series
• Jerry Cook, six-time NASCAR Modified champion
• Richie Evans, nine-time NASCAR Modified champion
• Tim Flock, two-time Cup Series champion *
• Rick Hendrick, 12-time car owner champion in NASCAR's three national series
• Jack Ingram, two-time Busch Series champion
• Dale Inman, eight-time Cup Series championship crew chief
• Ned Jarrett, two-time Cup Series champion *
• Fred Lorenzen, 26 wins and winner of the Daytona 500 and World 600
• Bud Moore, 63 wins and two Cup Series titles as a car owner
• Raymond Parks, NASCAR's first champion car owner
• Benny Parsons, 1973 Cup Series champion
• David Pearson, 105 victories and three Cup Series championships *
• Lee Petty, winner of first Daytona 500 and first three-time Cup Series champion *
• Fireball Roberts, won 33 Cup Series races, including the 1962 Daytona 500
• T. Wayne Robertson, helped raise NASCAR popularity as R.J. Reynolds Senior VP
• Herb Thomas, first two-time Cup Series champion, in 1951 and '53
• Curtis Turner, early personality, called the "Babe Ruth of stock-car racing"
• Darrell Waltrip, winner of 84 races and three Cup Series championships
• Joe Weatherly, two-time Cup Series champion
• Glen Wood, as driver, laid foundation for Wood Brothers' future team success
• Cale Yarborough, winner of three consecutive Cup Series titles, in 1976-78 *

* My picks.
 
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I also agree with 1-4, but I'm up in the air with the fifth. I'd think it should be a non-driver, but I don't see many worthy of the second group of inductees. So I'd go with Allison or Waltrip for the fifth choice. Maybe Evans for a diversity choice as a non-Cup driver.
 
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TheSyxxSynse said:
I also agree with 1-4, but I'm up in the air with the fifth. I'd think it should be a non-driver, but I don't see many worthy of the second group of inductees. So I'd go with Allison or Waltrip for the fifth choice. Maybe Evans for a diversity choice as a non-Cup driver.
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Of the non-drivers, I would rank Glen Wood the highest. The Wood Brothers were the Rick Hendrick of the '60s & '70s. That's where Pearson got most of his wins, Yarborough got his first championship, Dale Jarrett got his first wins. Junior Johnson, AJ Foyt, Buddy Baker, Fred Lorenzen, Curtis Turner, Donnie Allison, Ricky Rudd, Marvin Panch, Morgan Sheppard, Kyle Petty, Neal Bonnett were also winners with them. They brought more innovations to pit stops than any team. They were so much faster that Ford brought them to Indy in the early '60s to pit the lead Ford backed car, and they were in another time zone compared to the other crews. The time difference in total pit stops was the winning edge. So they also revolutionized Indy car pit work as well. With Dan Gurney they totally dominated the first several years at Riverside. Glen was also selected as one of NASCAR's 50 best drivers.
 
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1. Pearson -should have been in the inaugural class, imo
2. Ned Jarrett - went out in his prime, could have done much more plus he contributed more as an announcer
3. Darrell Waltrip - one of the first people you think of when you think about Nascar, great career topped off by being the "John Madden" of Nascar announcers
4.Cale Yarborough - 3 in a row and 5th on all time wins list
5.Lee Petty - First 3 time champion and top 10 on wins list.



I think several more guys deserve to get in obviously so my picks are not the absolute next 5 that deserve to get in but the 5 I would go with. I think some of the owners and chiefs should get in after the drivers down the road.
 
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615 Vol said:
1. Pearson -should have been in the inaugural class, imo
2. Ned Jarrett - went out in his prime, could have done much more plus he contributed more as an announcer
3. Darrell Waltrip - one of the first people you think of when you think about Nascar, great career topped off by being the "John Madden" of Nascar announcers
4.Cale Yarborough - 3 in a row and 5th on all time wins list
5.Lee Petty - First 3 time champion and top 10 on wins list.



I think several more guys deserve to get in obviously so my picks are not the absolute next 5 that deserve to get in but the 5 I would go with. I think some of the owners and chiefs should get in after the drivers down the road.
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We agree on all but DW, and I have him as #6, and I voted for Pearson the first round. Who would you add to the list?
 
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rbroyles said:
We agree on all but DW, and I have him as #6, and I voted for Pearson the first round. Who would you add to the list?
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6. Tim Flock
7. Curtis Turner
8. Bobby Allison
9. Fireball Roberts
10. Herb Thomas

Those would probably be my next 5 although a lot of drivers have similar stats at this point and a case could be made for several other guys.

At some point all 25 of those guys you listed would make it in but in what order is hard to determine. I guess that is why I would go with the cup drivers first before considering different divisions, owners, or crew chiefs.

I know we already discussed it but I have a hard time seeing someone like Ron Hornaday in the HOF based on his truck stats. That's what makes it hard when considering different divisions and who should and should not be included with the cup guys.
 
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615 Vol said:
6. Tim Flock
7. Curtis Turner
8. Bobby Allison
9. Fireball Roberts
10. Herb Thomas

Those would probably be my next 5 although a lot of drivers have similar stats at this point and a case could be made for several other guys.

At some point all 25 of those guys you listed would make it in but in what order is hard to determine. I guess that is why I would go with the cup drivers first before considering different divisions, owners, or crew chiefs.

I know we already discussed it but I have a hard time seeing someone like Ron Hornaday in the HOF based on his truck stats. That's what makes it hard when considering different divisions and who should and should not be included with the cup guys.
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Interesting, that is about my next 5 as well, except DW for me.

I think most of the 25 will get in, Parks and Cook may be questionable.

I mentioned Hornaday due to his dominance in trucks, and I figure they will take the top Truck driver down the road several years from now.

A definite case can be make for Richie Evans, as he absolutely dominated the modifieds. Then when you consider the Modified Division is the original NASCAR division, it predates the Stock cars.
 
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My five would be David Pearson (slam dunk this time I have to imagine), Darrell Waltrip, Cale Yarborough, Lee Petty, and Bobby Allison. Obviously I'm gearing my selections toward the top race and championship winners that are eligible.

Next two would probably be Rick Hendrick and Ned Jarrett. Maybe a little too early for Hendrick since he's still gonna be adding to his totals for the foreseeable future or whatever, but he certainly fits the criteria.
 
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rbroyles said:
Of the non-drivers, I would rank Glen Wood the highest. The Wood Brothers were the Rick Hendrick of the '60s & '70s. That's where Pearson got most of his wins, Yarborough got his first championship, Dale Jarrett got his first wins. Junior Johnson, AJ Foyt, Buddy Baker, Fred Lorenzen, Curtis Turner, Donnie Allison, Ricky Rudd, Marvin Panch, Morgan Sheppard, Kyle Petty, Neal Bonnett were also winners with them. They brought more innovations to pit stops than any team. They were so much faster that Ford brought them to Indy in the early '60s to pit the lead Ford backed car, and they were in another time zone compared to the other crews. The time difference in total pit stops was the winning edge. So they also revolutionized Indy car pit work as well. With Dan Gurney they totally dominated the first several years at Riverside. Glen was also selected as one of NASCAR's 50 best drivers.
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Spot on and will add that Bud Moore's contributions are too often overlooked. Not saying he should be in this go around but deserves it at some point.
 
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