Has your health insurance went up yet?

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Mine just increased 30% due to the Obamacare laws.

I'm so glad the government was looking out for me.

I now have to tell everyone on my staff that I won't be able to give anyone a raise because our group plan just went through the roof.
 
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Im sure this is part of our "patriotic duty" to pay more, it should make you feel good.
 
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Health care costs went out of control when government got involved 40 years ago. What's the solution? More government involvement. Hooray!
 
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NEOCON said:
Mine just increased 30% due to the Obamacare laws.

I'm so glad the government was looking out for me.

I now have to tell everyone on my staff that I won't be able to give anyone a raise because our group plan just went through the roof.
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you'll be pleased to know that HC is not a market and demand for HC services doesn't exist since no one wants to get sick.

have some Pringles and watch the gorilla heading to the woodshed in your backyard - apparently to get his tennis racket: GSM
 
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volinbham said:
you'll be pleased to know that HC is not a market and demand for HC services doesn't exist since no one wants to get sick.

have some Pringles and watch the gorilla heading to the woodshed in your backyard - apparently to get his tennis racket: GSM
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Fulmer won 11 games in 09 somewhere I there too.
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Not much "Hope" and before he's done all you'll be left with is "change". My premium also increased. They'll squeeze private health care and we'll all be forced to take the government option, mostly because no one will be able to afford private health care. Except of course the politicians that helped shove this crap down our throats.
 
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Isn't this what Obama really wanted? More people to end up losing their complany health insurance so govt insurance would look more "appealing"
 
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The Obama plan is a bad plan - it doesn't get to the source of the problem - the lack of incentive for efficiency from the private sector, a fact conceded by even the most bourgeois economists.

We need a single payer system. Health care is not a market. The private sector has no incentive for efficiency. The theory is clear and unambiguous as is all the data from the real world outside the back door.
 
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Firm cost went up about 20 percent this year and we are going to have to ask employees to share in paying that increase.

I can't say that its because of the health care law. And since a moratorium was placed on it by these federal rulings here in Florida I am having trouble seeing how you can say that the increase is because of the Obama plan.

Add to that the fact that premiums have risen similar amounts in the past and I'm left to basically ask you for a link that the increase we saw this year is because of the Obama plan.

I'll hang up and listen to excuse after excuse as to why you can't show that my firm's increase in premiums was because of the Obama plan.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Firm cost went up about 20 percent this year and we are going to have to ask employees to share in paying that increase.

I can't say that its because of the health care law. And since a moratorium was placed on it by these federal rulings here in Florida I am having trouble seeing how you can say that the increase is because of the Obama plan.

Add to that the fact that premiums have risen similar amounts in the past and I'm left to basically ask you for a link that the increase we saw this year is because of the Obama plan.

I'll hang up and listen to excuse after excuse as to why you can't show that my firm's increase in premiums was because of the Obama plan.
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Why bother - you've made up your mind that it has nothing to Obamacare.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Firm cost went up about 20 percent this year and we are going to have to ask employees to share in paying that increase.

I can't say that its because of the health care law. And since a moratorium was placed on it by these federal rulings here in Florida I am having trouble seeing how you can say that the increase is because of the Obama plan.

Add to that the fact that premiums have risen similar amounts in the past and I'm left to basically ask you for a link that the increase we saw this year is because of the Obama plan.

I'll hang up and listen to excuse after excuse as to why you can't show that my firm's increase in premiums was because of the Obama plan.
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The bulk of the mandates won't be phased in until after 2012. You think there's any coincidence that comes after the election??
 
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volinbham said:
Why bother - you've made up your mind that it has nothing to Obamacare.
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That's not quite accurate. I sincerely doubt that it does. I think these increases would continue ad infinitum if we don't do something to deal with the problem.

But, if someone can show me that BCBS here in Florida upped my firm's group rate because of some provision of Obama care I'm open minded enough to look at it.

I seriously doubt that there is any linkage. But I'm not the one claiming there is and therefore assuming the burden to prove it.



golfballs03 said:
The bulk of the mandates won't be phased in until after 2012. You think there's any coincidence that comes after the election??
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I have no idea. Certainly your conjecture is possible.

If you are right, how does that prove that the rate increase this year is because of the Obama plan and not something else?





In other words, still waiting for some proof that the rate increase we just got is because of Obama plan.
 
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I agree with lg here on at least this central idea: skyrocketing insurance rates are nothing new, and while there are portions of the ACA that I disagree with, I'm a little irked by the new tendency to start blaming cost woes on the ACA. Poll numbers are all fine and dandy but I'd prefer to be looking at some sort of causal analysis here.
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I have to go with LG on this one (gulp). If insurance premiums had been falling every year this argument might hold water. They, in fact, were skyrocketing prior to any government health care plan. I recall premium increases of up to 50%-100% long before Obamacare.
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JayVols said:
I have to go with LG on this one (gulp). If insurance premiums had been falling every year this argument might hold water. They, in fact, were skyrocketing prior to any government health care plan. I recall premium increases of up to 50%-100% long before Obamacare.
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mine went up but not very much. I never remember a 50-100% increase in one year. In fact mine hasn't doubled even though my salary is about triple what I started at
 
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utvolpj said:
mine went up but not very much. I never remember a 50-100% increase in one year. In fact mine hasn't doubled even though my salary is about triple what I started at
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IIRC, a company in Colorado or perhaps California proposed increasing premiums 300% in a single year.

Edit: I looked for a link to that figure. I was wrong on my figure. I didn't find one, but I did find a 57% increase.
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