Hate crimes bill goes to Obama for signature

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Hate crimes bill goes to Obama for signature - CNN.com

The expanded federal hate crimes law now goes to President Obama's desk. Obama has pledged to sign the measure, which was added to a $680 billion defense authorization bill.
President George W. Bush had threatened to veto a similar measure.
The bill is named for Matthew Shepard, a gay Wyoming teenager who died after being kidnapped and severely beaten in October 1998, and James Byrd Jr., an African-American man dragged to death in Texas the same year.
Several religious groups have expressed concern that a hate-crimes law could be used to criminalize conservative speech relating to subjects such as abortion or homosexuality.
Attorney General Eric Holder has asserted that any federal hate-crimes law would be used only to prosecute violent acts based on bias, as opposed to the prosecution of speech based on controversial racial or religious beliefs.
Holder called Thursday's 68-29 Senate vote to approve the defense spending bill that included the hate crimes measure "a milestone in helping protect Americans from the most heinous bias-motivated violence."
"The passage of this legislation will give the Justice Department and our state and local law enforcement partners the tools we need to deter and prosecute these acts of violence," he said in a statement.
Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, called the measure "our nation's first major piece of civil rights legislation for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people."
"Too many in our community have been devastated by hate violence," Solmonese said in a statement. "We now can begin the important steps to erasing hate in our country."
This month, Obama told the Human Rights Campaign, the country's largest gay rights group, that the nation still needs to make significant changes to ensure equal rights for gays and lesbians.

Really, "special" hate crimes.

Never really understood how this differs from any other crime.

Thoughts?
 
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This is worse than ANY thing that BHO will do to our economy. This is a HORRIBLE bill.
 
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I hate when people make fun of me for being 6'-6", 348 lbs. and ugly! Can I get a hate crimes bill?

It was sad that someone took this youngs mans life, but having a special crime bill for murder, when one is already there doesn't make sense. Other than just trying to pass an agenda.
 
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The expanded federal hate crimes law now goes to President Obama's desk. Obama has pledged to sign the measure, which was added to a $680 billion defense authorization bill.
maybe I'm missing the connection
 
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I hate when people make fun of me for being 6'-6", 348 lbs. and ugly! Can I get a hate crimes bill?

It was sad that someone took this youngs mans life, but having a special crime bill for murder, when one is already there doesn't make sense. Other than just trying to pass an agenda.

this will be the single most missused law in this country, it is a slap in the face of our judicial system
 
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i've never understood why a hate crime should get a worse sentence than a regular crime. does it matter what my motive is as long as the outcome is the same?
 
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i've never understood why a hate crime should get a worse sentence than a regular crime. does it matter what my motive is as long as the outcome is the same?

:hi:

I have been waiting for the RICO argument but this one didn't take off like I wanted it to.
 
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I'm angrier at the spineless Republicans who went along with this than I am with the Democrats for attaching this nonsense to a defense spending bill.

I continue to be without Federal representation. :search:
 
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Evedently that is not the issue, it is the "intent/tone" of the post.

Hate Bama week is on!!!!! Even my wife who grew up here in Bama and was a Bama fan growing up, wants Tennessee to beat Bama. Just because of the way that Bama fans act.
 
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Hate Bama week is on!!!!! Even my wife who grew up here in Bama and was a Bama fan growing up, wants Tennessee to beat Bama. Just because of the way that Bama fans act.

Oh, but not our sweet Bammer "visitors". We are not to call them any mean things. They are just here to talk football. They would NEVER trash our team or school or laugh at our VN members.
 
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Oh, but not our sweet Bammer "visitors". We are not to call them any mean things. They are just here to talk football. They would NEVER trash our team or school or laugh at our VN members.

As my son playfully replies to them when the start, "Let us all turn to the book of Bear and Stallings, followed by the book of Saban! We no longer read the books of Dubose or Shula!"
 

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