Heisman Finalists Announced

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getyopopcornready

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1. Colt Brennan

2. Chase Daniel

3. Darren Mcfadden

4. Tim Tebow

Only 1 of the finalists are in a BCS bowl and that team hasnt even played a top 25 team. The Prestige of the Heisman Trophy is going downhill
 
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Perhaps the other teams are getting better.:whistling:
 
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justingroves said:
How is the "prestige" going down? It goes to the best player.
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i thought the Maxwell Award went out to the best player, and the Heisman goes to the best player amongst succesful teams?... i know that theyre isnt any Tebows or Mcfaddens on the LSU's, OSU's, UGA's, etc.. but i just think that if the Heisman goes out to a guy who has lost 3 games then it really isnt that "special"
 
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lawgator1 said:
Silly boy, don't you see that the initial post was a not-so-veiled downplay of Tebow if he wins it?
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getyopopcornready said:
i thought the Maxwell Award went out to the best player, and the Heisman goes to the best player amongst succesful teams?... i know that theyre isnt any Tebows or Mcfaddens on the LSU's, OSU's, UGA's, etc.. but i just think that if the Heisman goes out to a guy who has lost 3 games then it really isnt that "special"
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The defense rests.
 
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getyopopcornready said:
i thought the Maxwell Award went out to the best player, and the Heisman goes to the best player amongst succesful teams?... i know that theyre isnt any Tebows or Mcfaddens on the LSU's, OSU's, UGA's, etc.. but i just think that if the Heisman goes out to a guy who has lost 3 games then it really isnt that "special"
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Nowhere is "most successful team" in the criteria for Heisman winners. Paul Hornung won it on a Notre Dame team that won 3 or 4 games.

McFadden is the best player in college football IMO regardless of Arkansas's record.
 
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justingroves said:
Nowhere is "most successful team" in the criteria for Heisman winners. Paul Hornung won it on a Notre Dame team that won 3 or 4 games.

McFadden is the best player in college football IMO regardless of Arkansas's record.
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ah come on.. Paul Hornung?... i didnt even know who he was before u said that and i just googled him... He was born in 1935 dude so im guessing he played in the 50's, u cant dig that deep, thats cheating
 
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Paul Hornung, while i don't really know much of what he did, should be a recognizable. His name is brought up every year when the analysts need to kill two minutes and dig up the does this guy on a crappy team deserve the heisman routine.
 
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Wasn't Paul Hornung's play on both offense and defense one of the primary justifications for giving Charles Woodson the Heisman? I seem to remember his name being invoked a lot that year.
 
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volfanbill said:
Paul Hornung, while i don't really know much of what he did, should be a recognizable. His name is brought up every year when the analysts need to kill two minutes and dig up the does this guy on a crappy team deserve the heisman routine.
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Hornung did the screw job on none other than Johnny Majors.
 
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justingroves said:
Nowhere is "most successful team" in the criteria for Heisman winners. Paul Hornung won it on a Notre Dame team that won 3 or 4 games.

McFadden is the best player in college football IMO regardless of Arkansas's record.
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Hornung really you're gonna go there. Most people would tell you that was a joke he won that heisman because he was at Notre Dame. And I am not gonna say Majors should have won it but I will say Jim Brown would have been a good choice.
 
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jaybird_1981 said:
Hornung really you're gonna go there. Most people would tell you that was a joke he won that heisman because he was at Notre Dame. And I am not gonna say Majors should have won it but I will say Jim Brown would have been a good choice.
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:eek:lol:

Just throwing an example out. The original poster was saying how a team with 3 losses should not have player eligible for the Heisman.
 
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justingroves said:
:eek:lol:

Just throwing an example out. The original poster was saying how a team with 3 losses should not have player eligible for the Heisman.
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Bear in mind that most of the people saying that 3 losses mean you are out of the running are really just inventing criteria to try to disqualify someone they don't want to see win it. If the guy they wanted was on a three loss team, i.e. if some UT player was in the running, then they'd overlook it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Bear in mind that most of the people saying that 3 losses mean you are out of the running are really just inventing criteria to try to disqualify someone they don't want to see win it. If the guy they wanted was on a three loss team, i.e. if some UT player was in the running, then they'd overlook it.
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I think most people care much less than you'd like to believe. I personally think the most outstanding player this season was McFadden, given his circumstances and surprising results. Discounting Tebow's short rushing TDs (mind you, I gave no Kudos to Mike Alstott for his TDs in Tampa), he had a great football campaign, but not the best. It's simply an opinion, but not one that I'm strongly behind since the award has been so devalued over the past decade or two.
 
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As I said in a different thread, I largely lost interest in this award a few years ago once it became obvious that the voters weren't even pretending to be consistent as to what the criteria are. But for Dennis Dixon to not even get an invitation to New York is ridiculous. Oregon was top 10 most of the year, cruising towards a title game bid, and then the instant he went out, his team became worse than Vanderbilt. But Colt Brennan gets an invitation even though he missed about three games and his team's performance was not appreciably different with him out. That's crap.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
As I said in a different thread, I largely lost interest in this award a few years ago once it became obvious that the voters weren't even pretending to be consistent as to what the criteria are. But for Dennis Dixon to not even get an invitation to New York is ridiculous. Oregon was top 10 most of the year, cruising towards a title game bid, and then the instant he went out, his team became worse than Vanderbilt. But Colt Brennan gets an invitation even though he missed about three games and his team's performance was not appreciably different with him out. That's crap.
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Word!!
 
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