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I think its a foregone conclusion that Travis Hunter gets the hardware, but what about the Tennessee connection? Heisman finalist Dillon Gabriel, QB Oregon, was recruited by and signed with Coach Josh Heupel when he was at UCF. He later transferred to Oregon after CJH left for Tennessee. Expect to see more Heupel recruits on the Heisman stage for years to come. Go Vols!!!
 
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Travis Hunter played damn near every snap in every game he played, at an elite level, on both sides of the ball.

It comes down to an argument between Jeanty’s stats versus Hunter being the best football player and athlete on the field in just about every game he played.

Jeanty is the best RB in CFB, Hunter is the best football player.

They got it right.
 
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Tman44 said:
I think its a foregone conclusion that Travis Hunter gets the hardware, but what about the Tennessee connection? Heisman finalist Dillon Gabriel, QB Oregon, was recruited by and signed with Coach Josh Heupel when he was at UCF. He later transferred to Oregon after CJH left for Tennessee. Expect to see more Heupel recruits on the Heisman stage for years to come. Go Vols!!!
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Actually Gabriel stayed one more year at UCF then transferred to Oklahoma for a season, before finally ending up at Oregon this season..
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Travis Hunter played damn near every snap in every game he played, at an elite level, on both sides of the ball.

It comes down to an argument between Jeanty’s stats versus Hunter being the best football player and athlete on the field in just about every game he played.

Jeanty is the best RB in CFB, Hunter is the best football player.

They got it right.
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What you cite here is why I shrug and wasn't really invested either way. The other side would posit:

"If you can't argue he was the best CB or WR how do you say best player? Most versatile? Certainly. Most valuable? Possibly. Neither are supposedly the Heisman's criteria."

In the end I was just kinda stoked a QB had no shot at winning which I thought was a nice change.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Travis Hunter played damn near every snap in every game he played, at an elite level, on both sides of the ball.

It comes down to an argument between Jeanty’s stats versus Hunter being the best football player and athlete on the field in just about every game he played.

Jeanty is the best RB in CFB, Hunter is the best football player.

They got it right.
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But when Peyton was the best player, he couldnt win because the team couldnt beat Florida.......Dont Colorado have multiple losses?
 
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It is now a popularity award and that is all. Hunter was decent on both offense and defense but not great at either.
 
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northknoxvol said:
But when Peyton was the best player, he couldnt win because the team couldnt beat Florida.......Dont Colorado have multiple losses?
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Tebow won it when we had three losses, then we lost the bowl game.

Heisman criteria changes annually based on who’s up for the award.

Some years there’s a clear cut choice, and other years you get Gino Torretta.
 
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Fatman Photos said:
It is now a popularity award and that is all. Hunter was decent on both offense and defense but not great at either.
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He was 6th in receiving yards and 2nd in receiving TDs. And then played DB with 4 INTs.

He graded top 5 at both positions this season. Not great at either?
 
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If Travis Hunter had played this season for Gundy at OSU, put up the exact same numbers and same team record, does he win the Heisman?
 
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Fatman Photos said:
It is now a popularity award and that is all. Hunter was decent on both offense and defense but not great at either.
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It's always been a popularity award, and as such it is a really peculiar award. Typically, if a QB or RB who is a preseason favorite ends up having a great season and is on a great team, they get it because everyone has been focusing on their games from the beginning of the season. The only guy who fit that description this year was Dillon Gabriel, but as far as the Heisman goes I don't think his stats are eye-popping enough. Recent QBs who won that award (Daniels, Williams, Williams, Young) had way more yards and TDs than Gabriel, and Jeanty's rushing stats were just otherworldly good, so I think he got overshadowed.

I don't have a problem with Hunter getting it over Jeanty or vice versa. You can make an argument that Jeanty was more valuable to his team (Boise St probably goes 8-4 without him and is nowhere near the playoff whereas Colorado's record might be the same if they didn't have TH), but "player most valuable to his team" isn't one the stated criteria of the award. It is really easy to argue that Hunter was the best player in CFB this year. He had a season pretty comparable to Jalin Hyatt's 2022 season, plus he was a good CB and played both ways basically the whole game. Colorado ending up having a really good season helped a lot; I bet it doesn't win the award if they win 6 games.
 
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Also, as the years go on it is still astonishing to me how Tennessee still doesn't have a guy who has won this award. To be as storied of a program as we are, that is hard to believe. Even TCU, Stanford, South Carolina, Oregon St, Boston College, Baylor, Iowa, Louisville, etc. have one, and now Colorado has two.

I have had football conversations with fans from other schools and have had people fact check me in the middle of a conversation if Tennessee's lack of a Heisman winner comes up. I had one guy argue with me in an airport bar several years ago because he was convinced that Peyton Manning won the Heisman and the national championship in his senior year. He about fell out of his chair when I told him he won neither.
 
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05_never_again said:
Also, as the years go on it is still astonishing to me how Tennessee still doesn't have a guy who has won this award. To be as storied of a program as we are, that is hard to believe. Even TCU, Stanford, South Carolina, Oregon St, Boston College, Baylor, Iowa, Louisville, etc. have one, and now Colorado has two.

I have had football conversations with fans from other schools and have had people fact check me in the middle of a conversation if Tennessee's lack of a Heisman winner comes up. I had one guy argue with me in an airport bar several years ago because he was convinced that Peyton Manning won the Heisman and the national championship in his senior year. He about fell out of his chair when I told him he won neither.
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It is a weird thing. It's also kind of crazy that when Majors finished 2nd, it's the only time the winner's team had a losing record (Hornung, ND was 2-8). Peyton lost to the 1st defensive (primarily) player. Shuler being 2nd in '93 wasn't close.

Yale (2), Princeton, and Oregon have had winners.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Tebow won it when we had three losses, then we lost the bowl game.

Heisman criteria changes annually based on who’s up for the award.

Some years there’s a clear cut choice, and other years you get Gino Torretta.
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Faulk or Hearst should have won in '92
 
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YankeeVol said:
It is a weird thing. It's also kind of crazy that when Majors finished 2nd, it's the only time the winner's team had a losing record (Hornung, ND was 2-8). Peyton lost to the 1st defensive (primarily) player. Shuler being 2nd in '93 wasn't close.

Yale (2), Princeton, and Oregon have had winners.
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Yeah. Tennessee has actually been robbed twice of the award.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Tebow won it when we had three losses, then we lost the bowl game.

Heisman criteria changes annually based on who’s up for the award.

Some years there’s a clear cut choice, and other years you get Gino Torretta.
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My favorite was when Manning didn't win in 1997 it was said "This isn't a career award".

But the next year when Ricky Williams won it, that was basically what a lot of the talking heads said. I remember how publicized him breaking Tony Dorsett's record was.

Side note I kind of chuckled the next year Ron Dayne broke it and it was kind of like "oh..hey yeah...cool....." At least that's what it felt like.
 
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