Heisman Voting

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Did anyone just see the Heisman voting? Tebow gets the most first place votes and ends up third? That tells me that the voters that really wanted a Big 12 Winner voted Tebow outside of the top 3 on alot of their ballots. Seems a little fishy to me...
 
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Yea it is BS. I can't wait until January 8th. The SEC is going to win its third straight national title.
 
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phi0129 said:
Did anyone just see the Heisman voting? Tebow gets the most first place votes and ends up third? That tells me that the voters that really wanted a Big 12 Winner voted Tebow outside of the top 3 on alot of their ballots. Seems a little fishy to me...
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All the good pub and winning last year is what cost TT.
 
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You know a lot of the northern voters didn't want another 2 time winner.
 
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Tebow got hosed by the Big 12 block---I'm sure ESPN/ABC had something to do with it, since the SEC is not their big network.
 
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bburger991 said:
How is it not fair? What category in any stat does Tebow beat Bradford in?
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I swear people don't read on this board sometimes. I never said that Tebow deserved to win the award over Bradford, in fact I said that Bradford's accomplishments couldn't be denied. I simply alluded to the fact that he won primarily because the voters that wanted him to win voted Tebow much lower than he deserved in the voting. Every year the finalists at the Heisman Award Show make up 95% + of all the first, second, and third place votes. If you look at Tebow's total tally this year, it's obvious that alot of voters left him out of the top three. Thus he lost despite having the most first place votes. There is no reason ANYONE shouldn't have voted Tebow in the top 3. It just makes me question the validity of these things at all...
 
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myrobbins7 said:
Do you think Bradford could put up those numbers in the SEC?
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Probably not quite, but everyone brings up how great the SEC defenses are in terms of numbers. However, those numbers are inflated by the amount of craptastic offenses in the conference. Outside of Florida, Alabama, and Georgia, everyone is mediocre to bad on the offensive side of the ball.
 
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bburger991 said:
How is it not fair? What category in any stat does Tebow beat Bradford in?
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well bradford has better stats but tebows stats were against better defenses. 9 out of the 12 defenses bradford faced ranked 66th or worse.

Of course I am sure tebow cares alot more about winning the NC than the heisman. I normally would not hope folorida wins but this time I will make an exception. I hope they score 60+ on Oklahoma.
 
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phi0129 said:
Did anyone just see the Heisman voting? Tebow gets the most first place votes and ends up third? That tells me that the voters that really wanted a Big 12 Winner voted Tebow outside of the top 3 on alot of their ballots. Seems a little fishy to me...
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There was a time when the Heisman trophy meant something. "The best player in college football".

Much like the Rose Bowl used to mean something. "The best team in college football".

Times have changed. The Single-Wing no longer rules. Nor does Knute Rockne, the "T" formation, the Rose Bowl, or the Heisman. Progress, at whatever cost.

We use the NFL to validate, or refute, Heisman trophy winners. Why? That's not what the award is about. It's about the best player in college football, right?

Thanks to the media, college presidents, the NCAA ruling body, and the "heel-digging" old school mentality, many things that used to mean something are way out of date.

Including the "BCS". Lord forgive me, but I really think it stands for the "BS College System". What a farce that every other major college sport has a playoff system in place, and we have the "FBS", and "BCS".

Sam Bradford won the Heisman trophy. Maybe he deserved it, and maybe he didn't.

Florida or Oklahoma will be crowned as the BCS National Champion. Maybe they deserve it, and maybe they dont.

My point is that, much like the Heisman voting, we are force-fed our college football "champion". That's crap. Settle it on the field, like every other facet of high school, NAIA, Div. III, II, and FCS program.

Settle it on the field. Then award the Heisman. And the Biletnikoff, and the Thorpe, etc.

Let the winners be determined on the field of play, where the real champions can be found.

Go Vols.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
There was a time when the Heisman trophy meant something. "The best player in college football".

Much like the Rose Bowl used to mean something. "The best team in college football".

Times have changed. The Single-Wing no longer rules. Nor does Knute Rockne, the "T" formation, the Rose Bowl, or the Heisman. Progress, at whatever cost.

We use the NFL to validate, or refute, Heisman trophy winners. Why? That's not what the award is about. It's about the best player in college football, right?

Thanks to the media, college presidents, the NCAA ruling body, and the "heel-digging" old school mentality, many things that used to mean something are way out of date.

Including the "BCS". Lord forgive me, but I really think it stands for the "Bulls**t College System". What a farce that every other major college sport has a playoff system in place, and we have the "FBS", and "BCS".

Sam Bradford won the Heisman trophy. Maybe he deserved it, and maybe he didn't.

Florida or Oklahoma will be crowned as the BCS National Champion. Maybe they deserve it, and maybe they dont.

My point is that, much like the Heisman voting, we are force-fed our college football "champion". That's crap. Settle it on the field, like every other facet of high school, NAIA, Div. III, II, and FCS program.

Settle it on the field. Then award the Heisman. And the Biletnikoff, and the Thorpe, etc.

Let the winners be determined on the field of play, where the real champions can be found.

Go Vols.
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A fantastic idea AND assessment.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
There was a time when the Heisman trophy meant something. "The best player in college football".

Much like the Rose Bowl used to mean something. "The best team in college football".

Times have changed. The Single-Wing no longer rules. Nor does Knute Rockne, the "T" formation, the Rose Bowl, or the Heisman. Progress, at whatever cost.

We use the NFL to validate, or refute, Heisman trophy winners. Why? That's not what the award is about. It's about the best player in college football, right?

Thanks to the media, college presidents, the NCAA ruling body, and the "heel-digging" old school mentality, many things that used to mean something are way out of date.

Including the "BCS". Lord forgive me, but I really think it stands for the "Bulls**t College System". What a farce that every other major college sport has a playoff system in place, and we have the "FBS", and "BCS".

Sam Bradford won the Heisman trophy. Maybe he deserved it, and maybe he didn't.

Florida or Oklahoma will be crowned as the BCS National Champion. Maybe they deserve it, and maybe they dont.

My point is that, much like the Heisman voting, we are force-fed our college football "champion". That's crap. Settle it on the field, like every other facet of high school, NAIA, Div. III, II, and FCS program.

Settle it on the field. Then award the Heisman. And the Biletnikoff, and the Thorpe, etc.

Let the winners be determined on the field of play, where the real champions can be found.

Go Vols.
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I second that. The BCS is all about the money and who will draw the bigger TV exposure and crowds. In my opinion Texas got the shaft as well as BAMA, as much as that kills me to say that. It is a pathetic system that is usually determined by a popularity contest.
 
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McCoy with a 77% completion rate and should have never lost to TT. Dropped int. allowed TT win it on a last second play. D snags the pick and Colt is playing for NCG and a Heisman winner
 
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bburger991 said:
Probably not quite, but everyone brings up how great the SEC defenses are in terms of numbers. However, those numbers are inflated by the amount of craptastic offenses in the conference. Outside of Florida, Alabama, and Georgia, everyone is mediocre to bad on the offensive side of the ball.
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Well said.
 
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Let's see if Tebow can back up his statement of wanting to throw aginst Big12 defenses. i would love to see a thris srtaight NC for the SEC.
 
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