Hillary's last haymaker on the way down to the canvas

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Rasputin_Vol

Rasputin_Vol

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Hillary is highlighting her strength among white, college educated voters.

Clinton makes case for wide appeal - USATODAY.com

"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."
"There's a pattern emerging here," she said.
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Not surprising stuff here.

The Jeremiah Wright saga has impacted Obama's popularity with white voters. I haven't seen the numbers, but I'd bet it probably increased his overall popularity with black voters.
 
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KB5252 said:
I would think so. Any undecided black voters would tend to circle the wagons and throw in their support.
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I think you have to reason through why some were against Obama. It likely had nothing to do with his penchant for hanging out with racist preachers.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
was that actually possible?
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What I meant to say was that the Rev. Wright issue has probably increased overall black voter turnout.

Prior to the Wright issue, there may have been indifferent potential black voters who didn't plan on voting at all...the Wright saga may have sparked voting activity from that segment of the black population, for nothing more than ethic pride.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
What I meant to say was that the Rev. Wright issue has probably increased overall black voter turnout.

Prior to the Wright issue, there may have been indifferent potential black voters who didn't plan on voting at all...the Wright saga may have sparked voting activity from that segment of the black population, for nothing more than ethic pride.
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if true, that's a very sad fact.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
if true, that's a very sad fact.
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Agreed.

Conversely, I'd bet that if Obama wins the democratic nomination, you'll see a slight increase from some former non-participating white voters who will make their inaugural trip to the polls to vote for McCain.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
if they're undecided, then they're not voting based upon ethnicity and are likely as offended by Wright as I am.
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Some would and some wouldn't. People cast their support for many different reasons.
 
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hillary is really a horrible person. she needs to throw in the towell and stop saying stuff like this.
 
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This process is all about the will of the people. She has seen the will of the people but she still thinks she knows what is best for them. If that is not elitist then nothing is.
 
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droski said:
she can't win and all she is doing is throwing obama under the bus.
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In order to get the nomination, Obama needs 2,025 delegates...He has 1,850.

Why would you expect a candidate to drop out before he/she has been defeated?
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
In order to get the nomination, Obama needs 2,025 delegates...He has 1,850.

Why would you expect a candidate to drop out before he/she has been defeated?
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most candidates drop out before they are officially defeated.
 
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droski said:
most candidates drop out before they are officially defeated.
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Some candidates drop out, some don't. It's optional.

I just don't see why a candidate should be pressured to drop out before being officially defeated.

You wouldn't expect a boxer to quit fighting in the 10th round of a 12 round fight. And you wouldn't expect a football team to head for the locker rooms at the end of the 3rd quarter if they were down by 3 touchdowns.

I don't think she'll overcome the deficit...I just don't think she should be expected to quit before being defeated.
 
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She can do whatever she wants, but if she cared about her party and it's ability to win the presidency than she would quit. I just don't think this whole situation has reflected well on her. You can bet if the situation was reversed she would be flamign obama like crazy for not quiting.
 
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I don't think the party stands much of a chance of winning the presidency with Obama against McCain anyway...but, that's a different debate.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
I don't think the party stands much of a chance of winning the presidency with Obama against McCain anyway...but, that's a different debate.
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i'm not sure about that. people really dislike hillary. obama is young, good looking, and a good public speaker. mccain is old and kind of boring. in the history of american poltics i can't think of many instances of the old guy beating the young dynamic guy. i'd be very happy if he did, but I think hillary would be better for the the repubs.
 
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droski said:
i'm not sure about that. people really dislike hillary. obama is young, good looking, and a good public speaker. mccain is old and kind of boring. in the history of american poltics i can't think of many instances of the old guy beating the young dynamic guy. i'd be very happy if he did, but I think hillary would be better for the the repubs.
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Obama has the Wright issue hanging over his head...he has a relationship with Bill Ayers that the GOP will magnify....McCain will also exploit his inexperience in foreign policy and defense...

If the American voter is merely looking for a young, good-looking public speaker, then perhaps The Rock should run for POTUS.
 
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