How different is the season with TE playmakers

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Butch offense needs TE to work like it should.
That being said, how different of a season do we have if there are 2 playmakers there?
It would lend blocking for the run game.
It would provide safety valve for the QB.
It would take presure off the WR.
It would open up the Slot.
I think based on that, and our needs @ TE, that the biggest impact from the 2014 class will be one or both TE.
Thoughts, comments, speculations?
 
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I too thought we'd utilize the TE more in our offense. Even though both TEs were respectably recruited (not 5* - but respectable nonetheless), I suppose the talent is still developing - as it almost always seems to need to do when at UT. I'm amazed how many true freshmen (or RS freshmen) are play makers (i.e. "game changers") on other SEC teams. We get a few over the years, but not as many as others by comparison (it seems).
 
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The Tight ends we have coming in next year will solve this problem. According to Rivals Helm is the #1 rated TE in the class
 
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utvols74 said:
I too thought we'd utilize the TE more in our offense. Even though both TEs were respectably recruited (not 5* - but respectable nonetheless), I suppose the talent is still developing - as it almost always seems to need to do when at UT. I'm amazed how many true freshmen (or RS freshmen) are play makers (i.e. "game changers") on other SEC teams. We get a few over the years, but not as many as others by comparison (it seems).
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Tight end play has been horrible...absolutely horrible. Downs and Quinn obviously cant play at this level and the freshman isnt physical enough yet.
 
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Our TE is playing at Texas A&M. Remember, we signed Cameron Clear who should have been the stud TE on this team but he liked other student's laptops and got the boot. It is all part of that attrition issue of the past few years. I can only hope the two young men we have as commits will begin to turn it around.
 
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wmcovol said:
Tight end play has been horrible...absolutely horrible. Downs and Quinn obviously cant play at this level and the freshman isnt physical enough yet.
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Yep.
Downs has been in games and has made a handful of good plays.
Picked up a few blocks in the secondary, but not able to help on the edges.
I haven't noticed if he has any receptions at all.
Q has been MIA, redshirt. He could be a beast blocker, but not to sure of his ball skills.
Quanz said he has good hands and will provide some good defense... lolz.
I do think part of the TE issues will be fixed with the addition of the Fr class.
Next year is going to be a good year to see what our offense is going to look like moving Fwd.
GBO
 
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Ya what the heck happened with Quinn. Didn't the coaches make him out to be some hidden talent that no one else knew about and he was suppose to add some fifth unstoppable dimension to our offense because he was a volleyball player and could jump?

So much for that dude.
 
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Why the heck does anyone feel you must have a superstar TE to throw to a TE?? Can't an average TEs get clear and catch a ball? Are our TEs so bad they can't do this or, does CBJ and staff just have a standard game plan that doesn't include TEs (ala Fulmer most years)???
 
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utvols74 said:
I too thought we'd utilize the TE more in our offense. Even though both TEs were respectably recruited (not 5* - but respectable nonetheless), I suppose the talent is still developing - as it almost always seems to need to do when at UT. I'm amazed how many true freshmen (or RS freshmen) are play makers (i.e. "game changers") on other SEC teams. We get a few over the years, but not as many as others by comparison (it seems).
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Other teams have solid players around those freshmen and I think that is the difference imo
 
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Volador said:
Why the heck does anyone feel you must have a superstar TE to throw to a TE?? Can't an average TEs get clear and catch a ball? Are our TEs so bad they can't do this or, does CBJ and staff just have a standard game plan that doesn't include TEs (ala Fulmer most years)???
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You don't need a superstar.
You need one that understands the position, and the plays. Downs yes / Quinn no
You need one that can block on the line, and in space. Downs no / Quinn?
You need one that can shed the block and get open. Downs no / Quinn?
Has to be able to catch the ball ... Downs? / Quinn?

We do not have a serviceable TE option at this time.
Honestly Jason would have been a great TE option this year.
I wish we were using Downs and Croom in TE.
North, Pig, and that other guy in X/Y WR
Young in the slot, with pig pulling some 3rd and short HB.
Obviously I don't know all the reasons the coaches do for not doing that.
It just seems to me it puts the best skills in the best positions at the same time.
Young was hurt, I get that it was not possible at that time.
Young was the slot receiver before he went out.
I just wish they would give him another look at slot.
I do not like Pig in the slot, I think he is better in standard WR set, or in HB.
Think North primary WR, Young WR in the Y crossing to slot, Croom in TE, Neal in TB, and Pig in HB.
It is kind of like Fun and gun with the WR crossing the TE.
Even if the defense doesn't get fooled and leave one wide open, you have a mismatch withthe TE and a OLB or CB.
All of the sudden the read option is insane with 4 passing targets ( wr, wr, te, and either TB or HB). You also have 3 run threats ( qb, tb, hb )
Now imagine that with the incomming class sprinkled in.
If you factor in the same play in ran from 6 possible formations, then you can really see the headaches it will give defenders.
We are only running 3 formations, because they haven't had time to learn the others yet.
This team is going to be very good very soon.
 
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VolenteerSpirit said:
Butch offense needs TE to work like it should.
That being said, how different of a season do we have if there are 2 playmakers there?
It would lend blocking for the run game.
It would provide safety valve for the QB.
It would take presure off the WR.
It would open up the Slot.
I think based on that, and our needs @ TE, that the biggest impact from the 2014 class will be one or both TE.
Thoughts, comments, speculations?
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maybr its the person calling plays reason we not using tight end
 
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rickyb712 said:
maybr its the person calling plays reason we not using tight end
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You can't call a guys number in the game if he is not showing he can do it in practice.
I assume based on that Downs is not a reliable playmaker, or we are better off with other options.
You could be right. I know for a fact they love TE, based on Butch's past.
So, the reason almost has to be based on skill not scheme.
 
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Between Wolfe, Helm, and a more experienced Branisel, we shoul see improvement here next season.

Wolfe being an EE is huge IMO
 
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The fact is you don't recruit that many Tight ends and when you missing on 2 top recruits Meredith and Clear it hurts the you throw in Downs ACL last year experience is slim pickins.
 
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I think Quinn can turn out to be really good. Guys he has been playing volleyball give him another year. Spelling or name may be wrong if so I apologize.
 
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Volador said:
Why the heck does anyone feel you must have a superstar TE to throw to a TE?? Can't an average TEs get clear and catch a ball? Are our TEs so bad they can't do this or, does CBJ and staff just have a standard game plan that doesn't include TEs (ala Fulmer most years)???
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Well-said. I have seen Branisel utilized for a couple big catches ... but not thrown to lately. And seems like Downs made more plays last year than this year. :question:
 
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