How does Ferguson's injury stay quiet?

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roster said:
I just don't understand why so many of you are terrified of Ferguson getting a look to.
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Nobody is terrified, but if Dobbs plays to his potential, what's the point of burning Riley's RS? Worst case scenario- Dobbs is a bust and it's Riley's job to win in spring. Best case scenario- Dobbs is a stud and Riley comes into spring as a solid #2 and 4 years left.

Do what's best for the team. It's quite simple.
 
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As far as CBJ stating that Worley or Ferguson were both healthy enough to play......I don't know about Fergie but I think anyone who was watching has to call BS on that as far as Worley is concerned.He couldn't even grip the football,which is why he threw those two pics. The Fergie hate going on on this board is laughable. There is a guy in one of the other threads arguing that Ferguson should transfer ASAP because he will never see the field here. LOL.........I think I am sensing a little racial animosity among some of these posters banging the drums for Dobbs.......Personally I don't care if our QB is green and from Mars as long as he can move the offense and throw touchdown passes.
 
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jvol1982 said:
As far as CBJ stating that Worley or Ferguson were both healthy enough to play......I don't know about Fergie but I think anyone who was watching has to call BS on that as far as Worley is concerned.He couldn't even grip the football,which is why he threw those two pics. The Fergie hate going on on this board is laughable. There is a guy in one of the other threads arguing that Ferguson should transfer ASAP because he will never see the field here. LOL.........I think I am sensing a little racial animosity among some of these posters banging the drums for Dobbs.......Personally I don't care if our QB is green and from Mars as long as he can move the offense and throw touchdown passes.
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There is hate going from both sides. Some are determined to see Fergy even if Dobbs turns out to be the 2nd coming of Conredge. Nobody's saying anything seriously about transferring that I've seen (may have missed that), but life ain't fair sometimes. Dobbs was impressive, so if he is up to the task, why not give him the shot to be the guy (assuming he takes the reins from Worley)?

I didn't have a dog in this fight before the Bama game, but the kid was impressive, so let's give him a shot.

What's the worst that can happen? He gets pulled and we are back with Worley.

Or... he could really turn into something special... but apparently some think that wouldn't be fair to Riley.

The problem has nothing to do with his being black no more than people secretly pulling for the white kid. It's happened before. I remember when they had Vol Calls after the games- some backwoods local yocal would call in complaining that Fulmer didn't bench Tee Martin so Joey Matthews would have a shot. Seriously. Don't play the race card.
 
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k-town_king said:
RF could have have played and would have but he is third string . Butch Jones said so himself. The only place that says he had a boot on is Volnation once it became apparent he is begin Dobbs. Is there some links or reports I missed. If any one is injured there is a news paper article or at least a thread on here. Why did all of these insiders who know more than media covering us not report it until Dobbs was coming in?
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Pretty much.

Also, the wrap Fergy's wearing looks very much like a calf compression sleeve/leg sleeve which like shooting sleeves/arm sleeves have taken off over the past few years due to NBA players wearing them. They're popular in basketball, running, and are even starting to catch on in football. If you have a compression shirt then it's basically the equivalent of that. They're supposed to do all sorts of things like improve performance, prevent injury, prevent cramps, aid recovery, aid circulation, keep warm and so on. And just like with the shooting sleeve some players wear only one.

Whether compression really works or not, compression does feel good and even a psychological boost can help a player. For all we know, Ferguson was trying to up his game at practice and if called upon at the game which is admirable.

I just don't see Ferguson dressing and looking awfully game-ready on the sidelines if he was so injured he couldn't go in.
 
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perico said:
Nobody is terrified, but if Dobbs plays to his potential, what's the point of burning Riley's RS? Worst case scenario- Dobbs is a bust and it's Riley's job to win in spring. Best case scenario- Dobbs is a stud and Riley comes into spring as a solid #2 and 4 years left.

Do what's best for the team. It's quite simple.
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lawvol78 said:
NO! Stick with Dobbs until further notice.
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so you are someone else who thinks 5/12 against Bama's back ups is better than 8/15 against their starters while playing with an injured thumb?

If Worley is injured then certainly Dobbs should start. If now that the RS is gone Jones thinks Dobbs gives them the best chance to win then no doubt he should start. If not... then you go with Worley... and you stop telling him not to run it on the read option like they almost certainly did before burning Dobbs' RS.

Worley HAS shown decent running ability. And... he's passed up on some wide open runs game after game. There's only ONE rational reason for that.... they told him not to run to try to preserve the RS's. Now... he should run if he plays.
 
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I'm so confused. Is it that 3 out of 4 of our QBs are at least somewhat injured? I'm sure we'll play whoever is most ready among the least injured. Dunno.
 
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sjt18 said:
so you are someone else who thinks 5/12 against Bama's back ups is better than 8/15 against their starters while playing with an injured thumb?

If Worley is injured then certainly Dobbs should start. If now that the RS is gone Jones thinks Dobbs gives them the best chance to win then no doubt he should start. If not... then you go with Worley... and you stop telling him not to run it on the read option like they almost certainly did before burning Dobbs' RS.

Worley HAS shown decent running ability. And... he's passed up on some wide open runs game after game. There's only ONE rational reason for that.... they told him not to run to try to preserve the RS's. Now... he should run if he plays.
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A couple passes were in the hands of the receiver but dropped. And they stayed with the same rotation of starters and 2 deep until we scored the TD, then the backups came in but not before that. They were trying to keep the no touchdowns in the last whatever quartes intact.
 
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sjt18 said:
so you are someone else who thinks 5/12 against Bama's back ups is better than 8/15 against their starters while playing with an injured thumb?

If Worley is injured then certainly Dobbs should start. If now that the RS is gone Jones thinks Dobbs gives them the best chance to win then no doubt he should start. If not... then you go with Worley... and you stop telling him not to run it on the read option like they almost certainly did before burning Dobbs' RS.

Worley HAS shown decent running ability. And... he's passed up on some wide open runs game after game. There's only ONE rational reason for that.... they told him not to run to try to preserve the RS's. Now... he should run if he plays.
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Good for Worley I wish the guy the best. I prefer a QB that is capable of running with the ball as planned not out of fear from the rush. Worley over throws and under throws receivers. You can't blame every bonehead play on the receivers. Yes some costly drops here and there. Some bad routes here and there. Worley has thrown more bad passes than good ones.
 
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sjt18 said:
so you are someone else who thinks 5/12 against Bama's back ups is better than 8/15 against their starters while playing with an injured thumb?

If Worley is injured then certainly Dobbs should start. If now that the RS is gone Jones thinks Dobbs gives them the best chance to win then no doubt he should start. If not... then you go with Worley... and you stop telling him not to run it on the read option like they almost certainly did before burning Dobbs' RS.

Worley HAS shown decent running ability. And... he's passed up on some wide open runs game after game. There's only ONE rational reason for that.... they told him not to run to try to preserve the RS's. Now... he should run if he plays.
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We need to get ferg or Dobbs the ball game experience. One of the two are the future of the QB position at Knoxville. Not Worley! We all appreciate the work the young man has put in but time is up. We need a game changer not a game manager. We need two more wins for a bowl, hope we can get the next 4. Go vols
 
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roster said:
I just don't understand why so many of you are terrified of Ferguson getting a look to.
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Maybe because in practice he makes Peterman look stellar. Do you know what he has been showing the coaches after the media is escorted out? Nobody else does, so inform us of your insider knowledge that makes you think he can cut it ahead of anybody else.
 
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Butch Jones: "Dobbs is to Tee Martin as Worley is to Peyton Manning."

You read it here first! Butch Jones later clarified his comment:

"Dobbs and Worley....my amigos."
 
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sjt18 said:
so you are someone else who thinks 5/12 against Bama's back ups is better than 8/15 against their starters while playing with an injured thumb?

If Worley is injured then certainly Dobbs should start. If now that the RS is gone Jones thinks Dobbs gives them the best chance to win then no doubt he should start. If not... then you go with Worley... and you stop telling him not to run it on the read option like they almost certainly did before burning Dobbs' RS.

Worley HAS shown decent running ability. And... he's passed up on some wide open runs game after game. There's only ONE rational reason for that.... they told him not to run to try to preserve the RS's. Now... he should run if he plays.
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So, CBJ is telling Worley not to run the football, when he is just as likely to get hurt throwing the football? How is that rational?

If Worley running the football occasionally improves our chances of winning games, and CBJ is telling him not to for fear of injury, he doesn't need to be the head coach.
 
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sjt18 said:
so you are someone else who thinks 5/12 against Bama's back ups is better than 8/15 against their starters while playing with an injured thumb?

If Worley is injured then certainly Dobbs should start. If now that the RS is gone Jones thinks Dobbs gives them the best chance to win then no doubt he should start. If not... then you go with Worley... and you stop telling him not to run it on the read option like they almost certainly did before burning Dobbs' RS.

Worley HAS shown decent running ability. And... he's passed up on some wide open runs game after game. There's only ONE rational reason for that.... they told him not to run to try to preserve the RS's. Now... he should run if he plays.
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Even more rational than your train of thought. In order not to burn a redshirt, why didn't CBJ just tell our QB's up until then, not to play football at all. Have them sit on the bench the whole game and let McCullers line up behind center. Wouldn't burn no QB redshirts that way.
 
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105437 said:
Apparently Ferguson was wearing a boot most of this past week.

I find it hard to believe, in this day of social media and instant information, that no media covering the Vols or student at UT didn't see him and comment on some level of social media that he was wearing a boot.

Perhaps I missed it, but then again I don't Twitter or Facebook.
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you must have missed it. it was discussed last week. early in the week, Dobbs was getting # 2 reps and that was talked about.. reason was Ferguson was dinged up
 
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sjt18 said:
so you are someone else who thinks 5/12 against Bama's back ups is better than 8/15 against their starters while playing with an injured thumb?
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Their 1st-team defense was in through most of the 3rd Q. JD got screwed by his receivers several times and should have been closer to 8 or 9/12.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
Their 1st-team defense was in through most of the 3rd Q. JD got screwed by his receivers several times and should have been closer to 8 or 9/12.
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^This, but not only...

Did some of these posters seriously even watch the game? Not only should he have been 8/12 due to 3 ridiculous drops, but 3 of the remaining 4 were lasers that were right on target. Only outstanding DB play by the #1 D in the land prevented three more completions.

The ONLY pass (out of 12) that was off target was the very last one - crossing route about 10 yds downfield and Dobbs over-lead the receiver by a couple of yards and about a yard high. It was 3rd down, he tried too hard and let it get away from him.

I love Worley and thank him for the sweat and blood shed for UT. But seriously, who here remembers him ever going 11 passes in a row without missing a wide open receiver?

AV
 
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