How does the NCAA stop this?

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JAllen18

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I believe boosters give money and bonuses at most major schools. It happens everywhere, even here at UT.

The coaches know their out there and all they can do is tell the players not to accept it.

But if a booster gives money, cars, prostitutes, to players and then they have graduated, went on to the NFL, etc. and the NCAA finds out.

How can they violate the University for this?
 
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There is only one way to stop it. The only thing the NCAA has control over is the players. If you get caught accepting benefits, you are permanently ineligible. Not sure that it would be fair, but its the only way.
 
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Considering guys with futures in the NFL are the target of these benefits, the NFL has to get involved.
 
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Just inforce the rules. Like if a team is on probation then their not eligible for the conference championship game or bowl game. If two or more teams from the same conference are on probation, then cancel the conference championship game.
 
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Send atheletic directors, coaches, compliance dept.officials, and presidents of schools from all conferences to a meeting with NCAA officials in Hawaii. Burn the old compliance manuel and create a new one.
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milohimself said:
Considering guys with futures in the NFL are the target of these benefits, the NFL has to get involved.
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keep the nfl out of it.

These are collegiate players, for the time they are in school.


i repeat .
 
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Then all the kids who take illegal benefits know damn well that they will be scot free in the nfl making millions with no penalty, while the institution takes the hit and all the guilty parties are elsewhere. Bottom line is that unless the ncaa has increased investigative powers and the nfl takes part to help enforce, then amateurism in college football will be dead and gone.
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i think allowing kids to go straight to the nfl or spend 3yrs in college would be a small step.
 
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milohimself said:
Considering guys with futures in the NFL are the target of these benefits, the NFL has to get involved.
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I believe the whole thing is collusion. Basically you have the NCAA, the colleges, all the coaches and officials at the colleges and the NFL benefiting from agreements to limit the benefit to these kids.

I like the idea of a college sport but in the real world it's just not a real way of implementing it.

I would like to see the States and the Federal government break all this up. I know people don't want to see it but in the end that is the only way it makes sense.
 
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Pardon my ignorance on the issue of boosters, but would it destroy an AD or a school if the whole concept of boosters was scrapped? Is there not another way to generate the lost revenue?
 
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I kind of like the ESPN approach and hire PI's that work with the NCAA and school directly. Kind of Russian of us to police our own universities but it almost gives you a chance to stop some things before they began.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
I kind of like the ESPN approach and hire PI's that work with the NCAA and school directly. Kind of Russian of us to police our own universities but it almost gives you a chance to stop some things before they began.
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Yeah get even more people involved to collude to stop kids from receiving money from a 3rd party of a 3rd party. I would say this is not collusion it's Racketeering.

The NCAA, the schools, coaches, and the pro-leagues just need to give it up... oh some fans as well. It's just a matter of time before the Feds get involved, they already are in the Bowl series.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Pardon my ignorance on the issue of boosters, but would it destroy an AD or a school if the whole concept of boosters was scrapped? Is there not another way to generate the lost revenue?
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No way. If you took away booster money, you'd have a whole bunch of Louisville situations on your hands. Phill Knight has given Oregon like 60-70 million dollars and the big time booster at Oklahoma State (don't remember his name) has probably doubled or trippled that total. I don't see how you could replace big time boosters like that.
Not to mention, they donate to things other than athletics. I'd imagine you'd see even higher tuition hikes and other measures to counter lost dollars from boosters.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Yeah get even more people involved to collude to stop kids from receiving money from a 3rd party of a 3rd party. I would say this is not collusion it's Racketeering.

The NCAA, the schools, coaches, and the pro-leagues just need to give it up... oh some fans as well. It's just a matter of time before the Feds get involved, they already are in the Bowl series.
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Exactly. No way possible to control it. You aren't going to get an 18 / 19 y/o kid to turn down things he's probably never seen before. I'd imagine most believe they are leaving for the NFL soon so what does it matter? Respect for your university can only go so far.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Exactly. No way possible to control it. You aren't going to get an 18 / 19 y/o kid to turn down things he's probably never seen before. I'd imagine most believe they are leaving for the NFL soon so what does it matter? Respect for your university can only go so far.
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I see nothing inherently wrong with a kid taking money or whatever considering the whole of circumstance. The problem isn't the kids, the problem is you have a whole industry trying to remove paths that a kid can take, that is the problem.

Yes, the ideal situation is where all the kids are playing for the school for the sake of playing for the school but that just isn't reality and to be honest I consider it kind of un-American for 3rd party to dictate what a kid can and can't do with another party.
 
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Not having a former AD of a school who is part of possibly the NCAA's largest scandal as head of the COI would be a start. But there is no easy way to police what goes on in collegiate athletics.
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LSU-SIU said:
I see nothing inherently wrong with a kid taking money or whatever considering the whole of circumstance. The problem isn't the kids, the problem is you have a whole industry trying to remove paths that a kid can take, that is the problem.

Yes, the ideal situation is where all the kids are playing for the school for the sake of playing for the school but that just isn't reality and to be honest I consider it kind of un-American for 3rd party to dictate what a kid can and can't do with another party.
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Firstly these kids don't have to play college sports. Since they want to, there are rules to abide by. Secondly, you might as well scrap college football altogether if that is what youre proposing. It's unsustainable. The vast majority of schools even in fbs couldn't afford to pay football players anything more than a scholarship even if they wanted to.
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milohimself said:
Firstly these kids don't have to play college sports. Since they want to, there are rules to abide by. Secondly, you might as well scrap college football altogether if that is what youre proposing. It's unsustainable. The vast majority of schools even in fbs couldn't afford to pay football players anything more than a scholarship even if they wanted to.
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The fact that the kids "don't have to play college sports" is beside the point. It's called "collusion".

I mean the schools don't have to offer college sports. Who said the schools would be required to pay players, not me.

There is nothing wrong with a college offering a player a scholarship and to keep the scholarship the player must follow some rules, it's a whole different matter when all the schools get together and setup a system then they include the pro leagues to help them stop any alternative path. It's collusion and blacklisting really.

Whether some schools can pay or 3rd parties would be willing to step-in to pay the money is beside the point. At the end of the day the schools, the coaches, the bowls, the school officials, the conferences and officials and the pro leagues ie NFL and NBA are colluding so that they can control people.

It's just a matter of time before the Feds come in, just like they are doing right now with the Bowls and eventually you are going to see a big lawsuit.
 
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Create an army of fembots to date all the players and record all that they do, or program them to say "You shouldn't do that."
 
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