How far have we fallen

[rickyyrs]

We can't even get a big time coach to commit to us. And there is talk about Ohio St DC Schiano (who was at Penn St) Are you serious. The crap he did or knew about is a whole lot worse than what Kiffin did. I am telling you if Kiffin was coach here we would win championships. The guy can coach. He would bring in good coaches and recruiters with him. I would give him a contract and put alot of clauses in it.

 

[Witch_Doctor]

Witch Doctor say whoever it is, He will have self confidence

BNL

 

[vols1707]

Please inform everyone what he did.

Has been denied, and Michigan, USC, Oregon, and Ohio State all felt good after talking to him.

If there was anything to the written statement that was bad he would not be coaching at Ohio State.

The claim is Schiano saw something that shocked him.
He denied it. But even if true you do realize that it doesn't mean a sexual act?

Some of you are making up what he had to see in your heads and running with it.

 

[OJ]

For way too many years I say to myself, this has got to be the bottom, only to realize the hole goes deeper and deeper.

 

[ajvol01]

We can't even get a big time coach to commit to us. And there is talk about Ohio St DC Schiano (who was at Penn St) Are you serious. The crap he did or knew about is a whole lot worse than what Kiffin did. I am telling you if Kiffin was coach here we would win championships. The guy can coach. He would bring in good coaches and recruiters with him. I would give him a contract and put alot of clauses in it.

Only one talking Schiano is 1707. Troll IMO

 

[99gator]

I brought this up in another thread, but this is actually nothing new and that's not meant to be disparaging

Doug Dickey's first head coaching gig was Tennessee. He was an assistant at Arkansas. Bill Battle was a first time head coach promoted from within. Johnny Majors was a national title winning coach who was called home. If he wasn't an alumnus, does he go to Tennessee? I don't know. Phil Fulmer was a first time head coach promoted from within. Lane Kiffin was a first time college coach who was fired from his 1st head coaching gig in the NFL. And there's Dooley and Jones.

That's 50 years worth of head coaches and I'm not sure any of them were a break the bank "home run hire" based on their resume before taking the job.

The exception might be Majors who was coming off a national title, but every other season up to that point in his coaching career, his teams lost 4 games or more.

So, this coaching search is no different than any other.

 

[JoAllan]

For some reason I thought Tennessee and everyone else (that needs a new coach) was still looking.......didn't realize the search was
Over after 2 weeks.

Also I didn't realize every big time coach has said no.

 

[MaTaLa]

Please inform everyone what he did.

Has been denied, and Michigan, USC, Oregon, and Ohio State all felt good after talking to him.

If there was anything to the written statement that was bad he would not be coaching at Ohio State.

The claim is Schiano saw something that shocked him.
He denied it. But even if true you do realize that it doesn't mean a sexual act?

Some of you are making up what he had to see in your heads and running with it.

Of course he denied it...pfft, not saying the guy is guilty but the fact that he denied it carries no weight.

 

[fade route]

We can't even get a big time coach to commit to us. And there is talk about Ohio St DC Schiano (who was at Penn St) Are you serious. The crap he did or knew about is a whole lot worse than what Kiffin did. I am telling you if Kiffin was coach here we would win championships. The guy can coach. He would bring in good coaches and recruiters with him. I would give him a contract and put alot of clauses in it.

Why don’t you wait until Currie announces our next coach before you start hyperventilating.

 

[malinoisvol]

Is this Groundhog Day?

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Please inform everyone what he did.

Has been denied, and Michigan, USC, Oregon, and Ohio State all felt good after talking to him.

If there was anything to the written statement that was bad he would not be coaching at Ohio State.

The claim is Schiano saw something that shocked him.
He denied it. But even if true you do realize that it doesn't mean a sexual act?

Some of you are making up what he had to see in your heads and running with it.

Greg Schiano, Tom Bradley knew of Jerry Sandusky abuse at Penn State, documents show - The Washington Post

For football reasons, IOWA scored 55 on Ohio State this year....

 

[PACKERVOL]

I just wish there could be silence until the new coach is announced. There will be pandemonium after.

 

[Rudy123]

I just wish there could be silence until the new coach is announced. There will be pandemonium after.

My best guess is that Kelly to UCLA. Norvell to Ole Piss Frost to Florida Gus to Arkansas.
Campbell buy out is too high. Mullen stays at State.
We get coach from SMU in worse case scenario and best case scenario we get Willie Taggart if Oregon does not match us and Taggart stays at zOregon

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Witch Doctor say whoever it is, He will have self confidence

BNL

Where ya been WD? Miss the wisdom of the bones around these parts.

 

[BTS]

I brought this up in another thread, but this is actually nothing new and that's not meant to be disparaging

Doug Dickey's first head coaching gig was Tennessee. He was an assistant at Arkansas. Bill Battle was a first time head coach promoted from within. Johnny Majors was a national title winning coach who was called home. If he wasn't an alumnus, does he go to Tennessee? I don't know. Phil Fulmer was a first time head coach promoted from within. Lane Kiffin was a first time college coach who was fired from his 1st head coaching gig in the NFL. And there's Dooley and Jones.

That's 50 years worth of head coaches and I'm not sure any of them were a break the bank "home run hire" based on their resume before taking the job.

The exception might be Majors who was coming off a national title, but every other season up to that point in his coaching career, his teams lost 4 games or more.

So, this coaching search is no different than any other.

i agree with you on everything but one thing. Majors was at Iowa State a very very down program and he won some games there . Then he went to Pitt and they were no power house and he built a championship team there . He then came here and built the foundation that Fulmer eventual succeeded on despite have to address new recruiting parameters that even hamstrug Bear Bryant in the last part of his career. Majors was a very very good football coach and should be given his due respect.

 

[BTS]

My best guess is that Kelly to UCLA. Norvell to Ole Piss Frost to Florida Gus to Arkansas.
Campbell buy out is too high. Mullen stays at State.
We get coach from SMU in worse case scenario and best case scenario we get Willie Taggart if Oregon does not match us and Taggart stays at zOregon

We get Lane Kiffin

 

[Venomous Vol]

Step back non believers or the rain will never come
Somebody keep that fire a-burning somebody beat the drum
You know some may think I'm crazy for making all these claims
But I swear before Sunday is over you folks are going see some rain

Then we are gonna cloud up and storm all over the SEC.
:rock:

 

[VolFan..But]

We can't even get a big time coach to commit to us. And there is talk about Ohio St DC Schiano (who was at Penn St) Are you serious. The crap he did or knew about is a whole lot worse than what Kiffin did. I am telling you if Kiffin was coach here we would win championships. The guy can coach. He would bring in good coaches and recruiters with him. I would give him a contract and put alot of clauses in it.

No big name is coming here. That simple. Most hires at most SEC schools are not big time. They certainly are not coming to a traditional middle of the road SEC school with a small recruiting base and idiot fans that treated a legend bad. But for Kiffin, those that say that certainly do not know him or what he almost did here. Had he not left for USC, the NCAA would have dropped the hammer on UT. That is what Kiffy gets you. Plus he has failed at every head job he has had and been fired everywhere except here. Being O Coord at Alabama is like the Lion trainer taking credit for the lion going beast mode.

 

[volfannbama]

More threads like this is what we need.

 

[BTS]

No big name is coming here. That simple. Most hires at most SEC schools are not big time. They certainly are not coming to a traditional middle of the road SEC school with a small recruiting base and idiot fans that treated a legend bad. But for Kiffin, those that say that certainly do not know him or what he almost did here. Had he not left for USC, the NCAA would have dropped the hammer on UT. That is what Kiffy gets you. Plus he has failed at every head job he has had and been fired everywhere except here. Being O Coord at Alabama is like the Lion trainer taking credit for the lion going beast mode.

All we had were minor violations you act like we were headed for the death penalty. You also act like you know Kiffin personally. I am looking for a coach that has X and O skills and can recruit . Kiffin can do both those things. Geesh Shiano has been mentioned and he was at P state when all the pedophile stuff went down. There is nobody out there that doesn't have some shade on them or are a risk in some ways.

 

[KBVol]

I brought this up in another thread, but this is actually nothing new and that's not meant to be disparaging

Doug Dickey's first head coaching gig was Tennessee. He was an assistant at Arkansas. Bill Battle was a first time head coach promoted from within. Johnny Majors was a national title winning coach who was called home. If he wasn't an alumnus, does he go to Tennessee? I don't know. Phil Fulmer was a first time head coach promoted from within. Lane Kiffin was a first time college coach who was fired from his 1st head coaching gig in the NFL. And there's Dooley and Jones.

That's 50 years worth of head coaches and I'm not sure any of them were a break the bank "home run hire" based on their resume before taking the job.

The exception might be Majors who was coming off a national title, but every other season up to that point in his coaching career, his teams lost 4 games or more.

So, this coaching search is no different than any other.

Tennessee is simply not the job and program so many fans (me included) have thought it is for all this time. It’s historically a good solid program with great fans and facilities.....but great seasons, great championship level football is just seldom played here. 1989 to 2001 was a great stretch of Tennessee football...was the late 60s before then and we certainly haven’t done much anything since, with the last 9-10 years being collectively just awful.

We’re not getting a big name splash hire this time either, just not happening. Gotta hope that Campbell, Brohm or Norvell grows into the job and gives us a handful of good seasons.

 

[BTS]

Why don’t you wait until Currie announces our next coach before you start hyperventilating.

I think you are absolutely right. I have brought up Kiffin several times only because i don't want us to leave any capable coach off the list. We should absolutely think big but if that doesn't work out i dont want to overlook Kiffin and end up hiring another Dooley or Jones. I would like to see a competent coach even if its someone that i dont like very much personally .

 

[ukvols]

We can't even get a big time coach to commit to us. And there is talk about Ohio St DC Schiano (who was at Penn St) Are you serious. The crap he did or knew about is a whole lot worse than what Kiffin did. I am telling you if Kiffin was coach here we would win championships. The guy can coach. He would bring in good coaches and recruiters with him. I would give him a contract and put alot of clauses in it.

Getting a “big time” coach to switch programs is not a small feat.

 

[ukvols]

Witch Doctor say whoever it is, He will have self confidence

BNL

This.
Definitely.

 

[KBVol]

All we had were minor violations you act like we were headed for the death penalty. You also act like you know Kiffin personally. I am looking for a coach that has X and O skills and can recruit . Kiffin can do both those things. Geesh Shiano has been mentioned and he was at P state when all the pedophile stuff went down. There is nobody out there that doesn't have some shade on them or are a risk in some ways.

Kiffin can recruit? Go back and look at the one Tennessee class....how many contributed at a high or any level to speak of? Hell, how many were even here the next season? It wasn’t good.

And can we stop with the Kiffin talk altogether? It’s as far-fetched discussing him returning here as it is thinking Gruden is gonna be our next guy. Neither have any chance of happening.