How would the SEC coaches perform..

[FïreBall]

How would the current SEC coaches perform under this scenario?

What if: The NCAA had a cap on how many players a team could sign based on star composite rankings or whatnot.. Let's say out of 25 players signed, a team could only take two 5* max, three 4* max, twelve 3* and so on.. Just throwing some numbers for fun..

Anyway, would coaches like Saban still perform to the level their teams do each year with a balanced approach? I think you would be able to tell what coaches do the better job in player development one would think.

Not saying I advocate this, just for off season discussion based on endless debates on class rankings and all, plus it's the end of my 60hr work week on midnights and am delusional at this point!

Go Vols.. Jump up.. Or something..

 

[ALGator]

:question: I think that would make the people who rank the players vulnerable to manipulation. Therefore, rendering the entire system useless.

I do think it's an interesting and unique idea though. :good!:

 

[FïreBall]

:question: I think that would make the people who rank the players vulnerable to manipulation. Therefore, rendering the entire system useless.

I do think it's an interesting and unique idea though. :good!:

Oh yeah, I thought of that also, you would see quite a bit of *unranked* players signed haha 😉

 

[chargervol]

I wouldn't even pretend I had an idea who would come out on top.
In the beginning, the best X's and O's guy, then those who develop players the best would probably take over.

All in the imaginary world where it wasn't corrupt of course.

 

[UT-Rex]

Side note: What if there was no star composite rankings system -- would Coach Saban have still been able to find the players he wanted / and would he have still been winning NC's with those players these recent years?

I think Coach Saban's MSU years 1-4 record shows somewhat what can happen when one moves up a level, and I think we can expect many, many more great things moving forward with Coach Jones as he continues to settle in / now that he's essentially built our foundation (/re-built) and had a better sampling of 4th down situations and such (against the JMC's and Bob Stoopses of top-tier football).

I trust Coach Neyland would be very proud of Coach Jones.

Go VOLS !!

 

[FïreBall]

My thinking was I believe in CBJ player development, so if the playing field was leveled, how would Miles and Saban fare? I believe Saban, Miles and Jones would all do well.. JMO

 

[VFL-82-JP]

How would the current SEC coaches perform under this scenario?

What if: The NCAA had a cap on how many players a team could sign based on star composite rankings or whatnot.. Let's say out of 25 players signed, a team could only take two 5* max, three 4* max, twelve 3* and so on.. Just throwing some numbers for fun..

Anyway, would coaches like Saban still perform to the level their teams do each year with a balanced approach? I think you would be able to tell what coaches do the better job in player development one would think.

Not saying I advocate this, just for off season discussion based on endless debates on class rankings and all, plus it's the end of my 60hr work week on midnights and am delusional at this point!

Go Vols.. Jump up.. Or something..

I think the Bama bagmen would begin visiting the homes of the nerds who assign rating *s to high school players. They would suddenly be in very lucrative jobs.

I do appreciate the question, Vlad, I just don't think any system that involves human talent can ever be made balanced across multiple competing factions. There will always be ways to gain advantage (within or outside the rules), and there will always be teams capitalizing on those ways.

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Answering the question in a hypothetical world where every team receives the same net amount of talent...

...well, that would shift value in College football from recruiting as Job One to developing as Job One. The best teams would be those who can make the most (as individuals and as a team) out of the share of talent they do have.

Guys like Pinkel and Snyder would probably come to the fore. Saban would stay successful, he is very good at development, very demanding and detail-oriented. Meyer too, probably. But that's who to look for, the developers and trainers. Butch would do fine. Above average, if maybe not extraordinary.

Top Tier in SEC: Saban
Second Tier: Jones, Malzahn, Miles, McElwain
Third Tier: Stoop, Mason, Mullen, Sumlin
Bottom Tier: Bielema, Freeze, Muschamp
Dunno: Odom, Smart

And oh, by the way, you'd see a return to the wishbone by a lot more teams than use it now. Perhaps other less-used schemes, as well. Anything to create space between your talent and the other guys' talent. So guys like Navy's Ken Niumatalolo would also become hot commodities.

 

[FïreBall]

I think the Bama bagmen would begin visiting the homes of the nerds who assign rating *s to high school players. They would suddenly be in very lucrative jobs.

I do appreciate the question, Vlad, I just don't think any system that involves human talent can ever be made balanced across multiple competing factions. There will always be ways to gain advantage (within or outside the rules), and there will always be teams capitalizing on those ways.

break/break

Answering the question in a hypothetical world where every team receives the same net amount of talent...

...well, that would shift value in College football from recruiting as Job One to developing as Job One. The best teams would be those who can make the most (as individuals and as a team) out of the share of talent they do have.

Guys like Pinkel and Snyder would probably come to the fore. Saban would stay successful, he is very good at development, very demanding and detail-oriented. Meyer too, probably. But that's who to look for, the developers and trainers. Butch would do fine. Above average, if maybe not extraordinary.

Top Tier in SEC: Saban
Second Tier: Jones, Malzahn, Miles, McElwain
Third Tier: Stoop, Mason, Mullen, Sumlin
Bottom Tier: Bielema, Freeze, Muschamp
Dunno: Odom, Smart

And oh, by the way, you'd see a return to the wishbone by a lot more teams than use it now. Perhaps other less-used schemes, as well. Anything to create space between your talent and the other guys' talent. So guys like Navy's Ken Niumatalolo would also become hot commodities.

Yes sir, just a hypothetical waiting on football season fun. Would be the first time Bama would be tied for last in recruiting with all unranked (*****) players.. Lol

 

[LouderVol]

it would have to be a weighted thing. Even among the P5 there aren't enough 5 stars to share. so maybe you would see something if you didnt get a 5 you got more 4s than allowed.

 

[joevol33]

:question: I think that would make the people who rank the players vulnerable to manipulation. Therefore, rendering the entire system useless.

I do think it's an interesting and unique idea though. :good!:

I agree