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That our Rpi only moved up 5 points after beating vandy. That makes it really hard to get in the tourny with our rpi at 75. Can our rpi move up enough with 2 wins in the sec tourny?
 
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I agree but the good thing is that you need atleast a 75 to be considered, so thats good!
 
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We could probably get close to 65 with 2 more wins.
 
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VFL 24/7 said:
I agree but the good thing is that you need atleast a 75 to be considered, so thats good!
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So they say. But, like only a small handfull have got in with an rpi above 63. If we only moved 5 against vandy then how can we move up enough playing lesser ranked teams?
 
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knowthevols said:
That our Rpi only moved up 5 points after beating vandy. That makes it really hard to get in the tourny with our rpi at 75. Can our rpi move up enough with 2 wins in the sec tourny?
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My question is would it be better for FL to beat KY today to improve our RPI since we beat FL twice? It seems to me this would be our best case scenario to improve our RPI. We would still finish 3rd in the SEC and be opposite KY in the tourney bracket.
 
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we shouldn't have lost to AP....early season losses hurt, but who here thought the tourney was even possible?
 
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1985Vols said:
My question is would it be better for FL to beat KY today to improve our RPI since we beat FL twice? It seems to me this would be our best case scenario to improve our RPI. We would still finish 3rd in the SEC and be opposite KY in the tourney bracket.
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Good question. Do you think we now have to win the tourny now or can we get in with 2 wins.
 
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knowthevols said:
So they say. But, like only a small handfull have got in with an rpi above 63. If we only moved 5 against vandy then how can we move up enough playing lesser ranked teams?
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This time of year the flaw in the indexing system is exposed.
You're averaging winning percentages into 30 previous games.
The emphasis is on where you play rather than the quality of opponent you play.
You see it every year. Teams that improve throughout the season aren't rewarded for upsets at the end of the year.
 
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lovavol said:
we shouldn't have lost to AP....early season losses hurt, but who here thought the tourney was even possible?
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We had several losses that we should have won. IMO
But, as CCM said he had to let the players see what would happen if they done it their way. Had me wondering if he could coach, but, he has answered that question.:good!: GBO
 
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knowthevols said:
Good question. Do you think we now have to win the tourny now or can we get in with 2 wins.
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I don't see how they could keep us out if we win 2 and get to the finals of the SEC tourney. It may depend on what happens to Miss. St and AL in the tourney in addition to us. KY, FL, Vandy are locks. I think the other 3 are foighting for the 4th and maybe 5th spot out of the SEC.
 
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1 win will get us serious bubble talk but I'm imagine NIT bound if we lose in the Semi's. Make it to the championship against Vandy or Kentucky and add another possible Florida beat down and we should leap to the top of the bubble.
 
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knowthevols said:
So they say. But, like only a small handfull have got in with an rpi above 63. If we only moved 5 against vandy then how can we move up enough playing lesser ranked teams?
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Because it is neutral site games not home, they count for more.

Also, it's very possible 5-10 team 1-20 spots ahead of us could lose early in their conference tourney. They do that and well also climb ahead of them.

2 wins an well be fine.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Because it is neutral site games not home, they count for more.

Also, it's very possible 5-10 team 1-20 spots ahead of us could lose early in their conference tourney. They do that and well also climb ahead of them.

2 wins an well be fine.
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I sure hope you are right. Would love to go to the dance.
I think we could make some noise.
 
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I'd kinda like Florida to beat UK today (even though we'd be 3 instead of 2) because it would help our rpi a bit and also set up good matchups for the sec tourney (we'd most likely play Miss St in the first game, which would help the rpi if we win, then we probably get UF in the semis, who we already know we matchup well against and would also give our rpi a boost)
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Mid to low 50's

As long as we play the favorites.
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If we get 2 .006 bumps and that's generous, here are some of the teams above us and in range that need to lose for us to get to mid 50s.

Texas, St Jos, Miss, Nevada, Miami(Fl), VCU,Seton Hall, Belmont, Akron, UCF, NC St, marshall.

This isn't counting the teams between 76 and 65.

Can you pick 10 losers to get from 65 to 55?
 
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calban said:
If we get 2 .006 bumps and that's generous, here are some of the teams above us and in range that need to lose for us to get to mid 50s.

Texas, St Jos, Miss, Nevada, Miami(Fl), VCU,Seton Hall, Belmont, Akron, UCF, NC St, marshall.

This isn't counting the teams between 76 and 65.

Can you pick 10 losers to get from 65 to 55?
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Cal- Belmont won their conference tourny.
 
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GBO97 said:
I'd kinda like Florida to beat UK today (even though we'd be 3 instead of 2) because it would help our rpi a bit and also set up good matchups for the sec tourney (we'd most likely play Miss St in the first game, which would help the rpi if we win, then we probably get UF in the semis, who we already know we matchup well against and would also give our rpi a boost)
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This is what I want!

Bearing miss st would look good IMO
 
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calban said:
If we get 2 .006 bumps and that's generous, here are some of the teams above us and in range that need to lose for us to get to mid 50s.

Texas, St Jos, Miss, Nevada, Miami(Fl), VCU,Seton Hall, Belmont, Akron, UCF, NC St, marshall.

This isn't counting the teams between 76 and 65.

Can you pick 10 losers to get from 65 to 55?
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Cal- does Florida winning help our rpi that much?
 
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calban said:
If we get 2 .006 bumps and that's generous, here are some of the teams above us and in range that need to lose for us to get to mid 50s.

Texas, St Jos, Miss, Nevada, Miami(Fl), VCU,Seton Hall, Belmont, Akron, UCF, NC St, marshall.

This isn't counting the teams between 76 and 65.

Can you pick 10 losers to get from 65 to 55?
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Everyone you mentioned!!!

I'm going by rpi forecast, they have been absolutely spot on and are saying 57 with 2 wins. I don't really care how it happens, as long as that's where we get.

Are you factoring in neutral court? I don't know the formulas and what not.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Everyone you mentioned!!!

I'm going by rpi forecast, they have been absolutely spot on and are saying 57 with 2 wins. I don't really care how it happens, as long as that's where we get.

Are you factoring in neutral court? I don't know the formulas and what not.
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I looked at that this morning.
Not sure the conference section has been updated.
Didn't make much sense.
Watching the trends.
Some teams in conference t play have gotten .009 bumps. others.006 or less.
Zansdad can probably tell us. I think he's already posted it though.
 
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I've said it all year. There is only one maybe two games that this team SHOULD have won, being AP and UGA (but it was on the road in conference, so that becomes the maybe). Charleston is one of the best mid-majors along with Oakland, so losing those two at the time really wasn't that bad based on this team. There have been several games that they COULD have won, but given the circumstances, it is very hard to say that they should have won them. This team has exceeded every expectation and has been incredibly fun to watch. Take care of business in the SEC (win 2) and then play in whatever tournament selects them. Successful year, overall.
 
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