I find the reasoning why Dobbs is the starter...

#52
#52
Couldn't be simpler.
Dobbs can run the Read Option better bc he ran it in HS. It's instinctive for him.
Without an effective Read Option, UT isn't going bowling.
 
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I just re-watched senior highlight videos on both Riley and Dobbs. IMO I think Dobbs looked more like a playmaker than Riley. Dobbs looked like has more arm-strength and accuracy as well as the ability be shifty and extend plays with his legs. He throws very well on the run. This is what I think gives him the leg-up on Riley. I think it's quite possible that CBJ wanted to play Riley before Dobbs because he knows that Dobbs is the future. Had Riley been 100% I would bet we would have seen his red-shirt burned instead to save Dobbs for the future.
 
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sjt18 said:
I seldom make ironclad predictions/statements... but Worley isn't playing Saturday.
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Why I said Monday.
the statement was made by Hyams before worley's demise was certain.
 
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Riley's grandfather lives in Clermont Florida early in the season I spoke to him about what was going on with the QB situation he said the family has all but commanded to be redshirted the entire season for several reasons.
 
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He burned his redshirt and didn't look bad doing it against a premier defense, Worley is out and Peterman and Ferguson are dinged up.

With that said, I wonder why he is starting Dobbs? lol
 
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sigchig said:
I just re-watched senior highlight videos on both Riley and Dobbs. IMO I think Dobbs looked more like a playmaker than Riley. Dobbs looked like has more arm-strength and accuracy as well as the ability be shifty and extend plays with his legs. He throws very well on the run. This is what I think gives him the leg-up on Riley. I think it's quite possible that CBJ wanted to play Riley before Dobbs because he knows that Dobbs is the future. Had Riley been 100% I would bet we would have seen his red-shirt burned instead to save Dobbs for the future.
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Were they running the same offense and using the same QB coaches?

I'm not trying to hammer you but the comparisons are against different competition, with different teamates and coaches. I know you can pick up some tendencies, but they are developed and coached at a much higher level here.

With that said, the best comparisons are from spring training camp to present.
 
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redfishvol said:
Riley's grandfather lives in Clermont Florida early in the season I spoke to him about what was going on with the QB situation he said the family has all but commanded to be redshirted the entire season for several reasons.
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Weird because early in the season, there was an interview with Riley's dad that said he (Riley) expected to play by the 4th game.
 
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#63
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Being able to "pick things up" as a qb is certainly an attribute I really like to see qbs possess.
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
He is saving Riley's red shirt. That's his reasoning
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I don't know if serious or not...

But I am astounded anyone would actually be simple enough to believe this.

Butch Jones wants to win NOW. Not at some future date.

SMH....
 
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Dougie_D said:
...INTERESTING.

He just said Dobbs is starting because he has more experience.

What he meant was "snaps" from the last game.

So to me, he's not really putting the "best" QB to win the game. I think he actually doesn't know..and that kind of scares me.

I would think by this time of the year, you know what all your QBs are capable of doing, right?
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You never know how your QB is going to be until they play the game. I seem to recall rave practice reviews on Crompton in 2008. How'd that one turn out? Even Fulmer said Crompton practiced well.

As for the snaps....two words...Peterson (okay one word, I forgot his first name :p )

So, Virginia, it's like this.

No, the coaches don't know how a QB will be until he plays at SEC speed in a real game. Not really.

Yes, it's a bad idea to put a QB who has never taken a snap before in as the starter on the road against a top 10 SEC team (well sort of an SEC team).

Does that help?
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
Were they running the same offense and using the same QB coaches?

I'm not trying to hammer you but the comparisons are against different competition, with different teamates and coaches. I know you can pick up some tendencies, but they are developed and coached at a much higher level here.

With that said, the best comparisons are from spring training camp to present.
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No they weren't, and I agree with you. That was strictly my opinion of the highlights only and things I noticed about them. I fully believe CBJ knows what their skill set is now in his system and trust he knows what he wants. Based strictly on those films, I was more impressed with the athletic ability of Dobbs over Riley. But, as you said, it's a completely different world at TN. GBO!
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
He burned his redshirt and didn't look bad doing it against a premier defense, Worley is out and Peterman and Ferguson are dinged up.

With that said, I wonder why he is starting Dobbs? lol
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I agree.

What worries me is, right now, who is our back up to Dobbs?
 
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sigchig said:
Ferguson is back-up according to CBJ
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Dang.

The back up to our true freshman qb is a dinged up true freshman.

The only time I can think of that comes close to this was 94 but atleast Peyton and Stewart were healthy.
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
Were they running the same offense and using the same QB coaches?

I'm not trying to hammer you but the comparisons are against different competition, with different teamates and coaches. I know you can pick up some tendencies, but they are developed and coached at a much higher level here.

With that said, the best comparisons are from spring training camp to present.
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I've spent a lot of time watching tape of both. I think Riley has a little stronger arm, but it's not a weakness for either of them. Riley's film reminded me a lot of Eric Ainge, but a bit faster. Riley throws bullets, and is very accurate doing so, but Dobbs has more touch.

They both can run. Ferguson is more of a physical runner while Dobbs is a lot more elusive scrambling. He may not have breakaway speed, but Dobbs is slippery as hell and can make you miss.

Riley's HS competition was solid, but Dobbs played in 6-6A Georgia, one of the top talent producing states in the country.
 
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BanditVol said:
I don't know if serious or not...

But I am astounded anyone would actually be simple enough to believe this.

Butch Jones wants to win NOW. Not at some future date.

SMH....
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Completely serious. We aren't taking a qb in the '14 cycle of recruiting, and Peterman likely transfers. ZERO point in wasting both redshirts. Plus, Hubbs has stated on more than one occasion the he wanted to red shirt both freshman.
 
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sjt18 said:
How many times does Jones have to tell us that Dobbs playing first had nothing to do with RF being injured before you folks believe it?
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So you would expect him to say otherwise? Knowing that he is sticking with Dobbs so he can retain Ferguson's redshirt, he is going to come out and say Dobbs is only playing because Ferguson was not healthy? Coach speak. Bottom line. Might be true. Might not. But it was really the only thing he could say. So we cant really draw any conclusions from it.
 
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sigchig said:
I just re-watched senior highlight videos on both Riley and Dobbs. IMO I think Dobbs looked more like a playmaker than Riley. Dobbs looked like has more arm-strength and accuracy as well as the ability be shifty and extend plays with his legs. He throws very well on the run. This is what I think gives him the leg-up on Riley. I think it's quite possible that CBJ wanted to play Riley before Dobbs because he knows that Dobbs is the future. Had Riley been 100% I would bet we would have seen his red-shirt burned instead to save Dobbs for the future.
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I have not idea how you can watch them both throw the ball and come to the objective opinion that Dobbs have a better arm. Ferguson definitely has a stronger arm. Dobbs has plenty of arm strength to be successful. But Ferguson has a stronger arm.
 
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