I realized today, how much I dislike

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CountVolcula

CountVolcula

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this administration when it cost me $45 dollars for a 20 round box of 30-06 ammo. I bought 2(25 round)boxes of 12 guage game loads, 1 (10 round) box of turkey loads and the 30-06 for a total of $80+. They didnt even have any .270 Win, of any kind, on the shelf. This crap is getting ridiculous. When are people, especially sportsman, gonna realize that they are trying to destroy the 2nd amendment, not by destroying firearms, but by excessive taxation of ammunition and keeping the supplies low and driving up the price.
 
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An ammo tax was in their plans all along, easier to weasel through than any gun legislation which would have been more public.
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Order off of the web. There are still some good deals out there.

I fixing to look into reloading my own. I've got some friends that are already doing that and their cost are way down.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Order off of the web. There are still some good deals out there.

I fixing to look into reloading my own. I've got some friends that are already doing that and their cost are way down.
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Im gonna start reloading also.
 
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My father, uncle, and grandfather have been reloading for years, and it saves them a ton. You can re-use a brass jacket 20 or more times, sometimes. That's a lot of the cost right there.
 
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IPorange said:
My father, uncle, and grandfather have been reloading for years, and it saves them a ton. You can re-use a brass jacket 20 or more times, sometimes. That's a lot of the cost right there.
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It only makes sense. Just from the little amount I've looked at it, the brass does seem the most expensive. The bullet and the powder seem the cheapest. Do you have any suggestions for type of reloading units are the best?
 
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IPorange said:
My father, uncle, and grandfather have been reloading for years, and it saves them a ton. You can re-use a brass jacket 20 or more times, sometimes. That's a lot of the cost right there.
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Sounds like some smart fellows.

My grandaddy had enough ammo to take a third world country, when he died.
 
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I grew up watching my uncle and dad sitting around reloading. I just remember a table-top unit with a large-moment arm for closing the shells.
 
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380 ammo is hard to find. i have a ruger lcp 380 that i carry with me, but finding ammo is ridiculous
 
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My cousin and his sons have a good reloading setup. And they need it, because they fire down.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
It only makes sense. Just from the little amount I've looked at it, the brass does seem the most expensive. The bullet and the powder seem the cheapest. Do you have any suggestions for type of reloading units are the best?
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I don't have the specifics, but I'll ask my dad the next time I talk to him. He just has a single press that can handle a fairly wide variety of ammunition.

And yes, the bullets and powder are not that expensive. It's the brass that kills you. Even when a jacket has cracked or split, it is still worth saving and turning over to someone who can recycle it.
 
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i bet you could find some good reloading maching pretty cheap. i've been looking to do that but i don't shoot enough.
 
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joevol320 said:
i bet you could find some good reloading maching pretty cheap. i've been looking to do that but i don't shoot enough.
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I've been looking on Midway USA. The Hornady reloader I'm looking at is $400 but its a progressive reloader. They have a Lee for less that $200, but the ratings are not as good as the Hornady. The Lee has trouble with setting the primer correctly. To get started, its gonna cost me around $700, but I will make up that in time.
 
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CountVolcula said:
I've been looking on Midway USA. The Hornady reloader I'm looking at is $400 but its a progressive reloader. They have a Lee for less that $200, but the ratings are not as good as the Hornady. The Lee has trouble with setting the primer correctly. To get started, its gonna cost me around $700, but I will make up that in time.
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If you don't plan on needing to load a lot (competition shooting or just recreationally trigger happy, like having a AR type weapon to feed) or have some oddball calibers that ammo is expensive/difficult to find there's no need to go into fancy and expensive progressive loading setups. I just have a good old "single stage" press. A setup like this:

Cabela's -- RCBS RC Supreme Master Reloading Kit

can be had for under $300 bucks brand new (and probably less if you shopped around or found some used stuff) and is everything you need other than the caliber specific stuff (dies, shell holders) and the actual components. (brass, powder, primers, bullets)

It's actually kinda fun once you get the hang of it. Don't screw around getting inventive though. Get good reloading manuals and stick with their advice. I actually feel safer loading on a single stage anyway. You can't easily crank out several hundred rounds in one sitting but I don't shoot that much at the moment. (actually I'm kinda hoarding right now precisely because of ammo prices)
 
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hndog609 said:
If you don't plan on needing to load a lot (competition shooting or just recreationally trigger happy, like having a AR type weapon to feed) or have some oddball calibers that ammo is expensive/difficult to find there's no need to go into fancy and expensive progressive loading setups. I just have a good old "single stage" press. A setup like this:

Cabela's -- RCBS RC Supreme Master Reloading Kit

can be had for under $300 bucks brand new (and probably less if you shopped around or found some used stuff) and is everything you need other than the caliber specific stuff (dies, shell holders) and the actual components. (brass, powder, primers, bullets)

It's actually kinda fun once you get the hang of it. Don't screw around getting inventive though. Get good reloading manuals and stick with their advice. I actually feel safer loading on a single stage anyway. You can't easily crank out several hundred rounds in one sitting but I don't shoot that much at the moment. (actually I'm kinda hoarding right now precisely because of ammo prices)
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Thanks!! I will check that out.
 
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CountVolcula said:
this administration when it cost me $45 dollars for a 20 round box of 30-06 ammo. I bought 2(25 round)boxes of 12 guage game loads, 1 (10 round) box of turkey loads and the 30-06 for a total of $80+. They didnt even have any .270 Win, of any kind, on the shelf. This crap is getting ridiculous. When are people, especially sportsman, gonna realize that they are trying to destroy the 2nd amendment, not by destroying firearms, but by excessive taxation of ammunition and keeping the supplies low and driving up the price.
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Ummmmm... there's not been a federal tax increase on ammo. I know because I just bought a box of 12 guage turkey loads and it cost me exactly as much as it did in November.

If your prices are higher, its either a state tax increase or the store is charging more for them. In Illinois (where Obama is from, for crying out loud) our ammo price is steady.
 
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Illinois Hokie said:
Ummmmm... there's not been a federal tax increase on ammo. I know because I just bought a box of 12 guage turkey loads and it cost me exactly as much as it did in November.

If your prices are higher, its either a state tax increase or the store is charging more for them. In Illinois (where Obama is from, for crying out loud) our ammo price is steady.
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I believe laws have been passed that have hurt certain companies who would buy spent brass in bulk from law enforcement and military sources and recycle it back into ammunition, which has greatly affected the price of brass-jacketed ammo over the last year.
 
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IPorange said:
I believe laws have been passed that have hurt certain companies who would buy spent brass in bulk from law enforcement and military sources and recycle it back into ammunition, which has greatly affected the price of brass-jacketed ammo over the last year.
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That is accurate, albeit outdated information. What you say did take place but was shortly repealed.

As was stated earlier some of the components had been very hard to get hold of, primers in particular. I had heard that a good deal of that was due to military demand but to what extent that was actually the case I can't say for certain. Things have improved somewhat of late however, at least in the components I've been ordering.
 
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Illinois Hokie said:
Ummmmm... there's not been a federal tax increase on ammo. I know because I just bought a box of 12 guage turkey loads and it cost me exactly as much as it did in November.

If your prices are higher, its either a state tax increase or the store is charging more for them. In Illinois (where Obama is from, for crying out loud) our ammo price is steady.
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Not that they have, but that they will. It is already bad enough now without any added taxation. My point was that they could easily destroy the 2nd ammendment by doing so. I may have come off wrong with my OP because I was pissed at paying $40 for something I bought for $20 2 years ago.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Not that they have, but that they will. It is already bad enough now without any added taxation. My point was that they could easily destroy the 2nd ammendment by doing so. I may have come off wrong with my OP because I was pissed at paying $40 for something I bought for $20 2 years ago.
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Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you guys had seen a sudden jump in price down there because of a tax increase at the first of the year.

Yeah, my ammo's higher now than it was a couple of years ago, but then again, so's everything else I'm buying...
 
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Illinois Hokie said:
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you guys had seen a sudden jump in price down there because of a tax increase at the first of the year.

Yeah, my ammo's higher now than it was a couple of years ago, but then again, so's everything else I'm buying...
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No problem.
 
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