If Arkansas were to beat LSU, God forbid....

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Stupified

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Who represents the West in the SECCG?
[We won't even get into the National Championship debate.]


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Bama. There's really a simple rule on that: BCS rankings

And if the top 2 are within 5 spaces of each other, goes to winner of the actual matchup between those teams.
 
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Just mainly depends on where LSU fell.


If they fall behind bama, your top 2 in the sec west are Arky and bama, they're within 5 ranked spaces, tie goes to Alabama due to beating the hogs early in the year


If LSU somehow manages to fall ahead of Bama (would take a miracle and an odd outcome....arky needs to probably win by ALOT but too much and lsu risks falling behind bama), then it's arky and LSU, arky beat LSU that week, they go to the SEC championship game
 
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Now it doesn't matter, Bama is going to play in the national championship. Oregon doesn't play anyone big enough to jump bama.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Just mainly depends on where LSU fell.


If they fall behind bama, your top 2 in the sec west are Arky and bama, they're within 5 ranked spaces, tie goes to Alabama due to beating the hogs early in the year


If LSU somehow manages to fall ahead of Bama (would take a miracle and an odd outcome....arky needs to probably win by ALOT but too much and lsu risks falling behind bama), then it's arky and LSU, arky beat LSU that week, they go to the SEC championship game
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If LSU stayed ahead of Bama, wouldn't they be the top 2 (instead of Arky), and so LSU would go to the championship?
 
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Stupified said:
If LSU stayed ahead of Bama, wouldn't they be the top 2 (instead of Arky), and so LSU would go to the championship?
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No, within 5 BCS spaces, head to head matchup serves as the tiebreaker

It'd be a bit harder to imagine a way Arkansas doesn't jump ahead of bama or lsu fall behind arky following a loss to them, if all teams just have 1 loss
 
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Stupified said:
So basically if LSU loses, Alabama will go to the SECCG and the NCG.


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Pretty much, unless they somehow say "well lsu beat Alabama, so they should still stay ahead of them"...and arky jumps bama



You know what's funny: say arky jumps bama but bama still goes to the sec championship game. Regardless of where arky ends up ranked before conference championship week, there wont be any talk or discussion of "rematch" at all
 
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The BCS ranking is the 8th tie breaker if there is a three way tie.

From wiki:

- (Once the tie has been reduced to two teams, go to the two-team tie-breaker format.)
- Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams.
- Record of the tied teams within the division.
- Records against the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) Conference record and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last.
- Complete record vs. non-division teams.
- Complete record vs. all common non-divisional teams.
- Record vs. common non-divisional team with the best overall Conference (divisional and non-divisional) record and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
- The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the last weekend of regular-season games shall be the divisional representative in the SEC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the SEC Championship Game.
 
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If undefeated LSU loses the SEC CG, do you put Bama vs. Oregon in the BCS game after LSU beat them both? Assuming wins by those teams of course.
 
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95 Vol Alum said:
If undefeated LSU loses the SEC CG, do you put Bama vs. Oregon in the BCS game after LSU beat them both? Assuming wins by those teams of course.
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That or Oregon and OU, assuming wins by all those teams (if not might depend where Ok st falls relative to OU as well as relative to the ACC teams)
 
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milohimself said:
- The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the last weekend of regular-season games shall be the divisional representative in the SEC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the SEC Championship Game.
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That means that if LSU loses to Arky barely - in overtime, say - and stays ahead of them in the BCS, they still get into the SEC game.

But then Alabama would seemingly make it to the NCG even without winning the conference. :huh:
 
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Stupified said:
That means that if LSU loses to Arky barely - in overtime, say - and stays ahead of them in the BCS, they still get into the SEC game.

But then Alabama would seemingly make it to the NCG even without winning the conference. :huh:
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Who's "they" here?
 
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What do you mean God forbid? I'd love it. What a pile of crap they'd have to wade through.
 
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Stupified said:
LSU. If they dropped below Alabama but stayed ahead of Arkansas, LSU would be the second team in the BCS tiebreaker equation. Which means they would advance to the SECCG because they beat Bama head-to-head.
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If Arkansas doesn't jump bama. If Arkansas is 2-3 spaces behind bama, it's hard to see a win over the #1 team either not result in them jumping Alabama or not result in lsu dropping behind the team that beat them
 
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TrueOrange said:
If Arkansas doesn't jump bama. If Arkansas is 2-3 spaces behind bama, it's hard to see a win over the #1 team either not result in them jumping Alabama or not result in lsu dropping behind the team that beat them
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Alabama would be #2 at that point (with OSU's loss), so they would go to number 1 if LSU falls. And I agree that it is unlikely that Arky would not jump LSU if they won, but it's still an interesting scenario. I wish it would happen though; all it does is highlight the necessity for a +1 or playoff system.
 
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Stupified said:
Alabama would be #2 at that point (with OSU's loss), so they would go to number 1 if LSU falls. And I agree that it is unlikely that Arky would not jump LSU if they won, but it's still an interesting scenario. I wish it would happen though; all it does is highlight the necessity for a +1 or playoff system.
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Well yes. Though if Arkansas was #3,4 (or stretching it at 5), they could feasibly be put up lsu depending on how the game went but I get what you're saying
 
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