IF USC loses, you need to root for Florida to win big

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Rationale: Outcome of Florida-Arkansas means nothing to your bowl game assignment. But, if USC loses and Florida whupps up on Arky, that creates the one thing almost everyone on this board has said, in one form or another, they want to see happen: a BCS crisis.

Only way to get to a playoff my friends is to prove that the BCS does not work. Everyone is saying that if USC wins out, they deserve to go. I'm okay with that. No argument here.

But if they lose and UF smokes Arkansas, we will have a legitimate dispute as to who is #2. And the loser of that debate will become a strong proponent for a playoff.

Its our only chance.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Rationale: Outcome of Florida-Arkansas means nothing to your bowl game assignment. But, if USC loses and Florida whupps up on Arky, that creates the one thing almost everyone on this board has said, in one form or another, they want to see happen: a BCS crisis.

Only way to get to a playoff my friends is to prove that the BCS does not work. Everyone is saying that if USC wins out, they deserve to go. I'm okay with that. No argument here.

But if they lose and UF smokes Arkansas, we will have a legitimate dispute as to who is #2. And the loser of that debate will become a strong proponent for a playoff.

Its our only chance.
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Do you mean if USC loses to UCLA or Ohio State? I don't see the Bruins slowing down the Trojans. Also, I'd prefer to not see the BCS fail. That would result in an unsatisfactory championship. I prefer satisfaction.
 
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If USC wins the BCS still fails IMO.
How do you tell Florida if they win out they aren't deserving of a shot at a NC?

Why is USC more deserving the Florida of playing for the NC?
 
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oklavol said:
If USC wins the BCS still fails IMO.
How do you tell Florida if they win out they aren't deserving of a shot at a NC?

Why is USC more deserving the Florida of playing for the NC?
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Because UF lost to the #11 BCS team and USC lost to, ummm, ummm, yeah.
 
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oklavol said:
If USC wins the BCS still fails IMO.
How do you tell Florida if they win out they aren't deserving of a shot at a NC?

Why is USC more deserving the Florida of playing for the NC?
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I agree. Florida deserves just as much of a shot as USC does,plus Florida beat a team that made a complete joke out of a top of the pack PAC 10 team.

IMO in 20 years people will be used to the playoff system,and will look back and think of the BSC (and previous system) as a complete joke.
 
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oklavol said:
If USC wins the BCS still fails IMO.
How do you tell Florida if they win out they aren't deserving of a shot at a NC?

Why is USC more deserving the Florida of playing for the NC?
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As between the two games thisd weekend, USC looked a lot better. Florida still shooting itself in the foot every time it gets inside the 20.


HawaiiVol said:
Because UF lost to the #11 BCS team and USC lost to, ummm, ummm, yeah.
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Hmmmmm.... Hadn't thought of ti tghat way before and that's a good point. I think UF's SOS is way higher than USC's. Is it? Got to go check.

But at any rate, pollsters seem enamored of USC. Could it be because they are in LA and the Gators are in Gainesville? That simple? :yes:

orangepeel said:
I agree. Florida deserves just as much of a shot as USC does,plus Florida beat a team that made a complete joke out of a top of the pack PAC 10 team.

IMO in 20 years people will be used to the playoff system,and will look back and think of the BSC (and previous system) as a complete joke.
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That's why you have to root for UF on Saturday. Hasten the arrival of sanity.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Rationale: Outcome of Florida-Arkansas means nothing to your bowl game assignment. But, if USC loses and Florida whupps up on Arky, that creates the one thing almost everyone on this board has said, in one form or another, they want to see happen: a BCS crisis.

Only way to get to a playoff my friends is to prove that the BCS does not work. Everyone is saying that if USC wins out, they deserve to go. I'm okay with that. No argument here.

But if they lose and UF smokes Arkansas, we will have a legitimate dispute as to who is #2. And the loser of that debate will become a strong proponent for a playoff.

Its our only chance.
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I think it should be rematch with the two best teams in the country, OSU and Michigan.Florida struggled with FSU.Arky lost to LSU.Michigan beat ND as bad as USC did, plus the only loss Michigan has is to #1 whereby USC lost to an unranked team or a team not
highly ranked.
 
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Florida played Div I-AA Western Carolina.

They barely deserve to play for a conference Championship.

USC has a higher SOS.
 
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The Harris poll came out with more consensus for 2-3-4 than the coaches did. The gaps are bigger between USC and Michigan and Michigan and Florida than in the coaches' poll.

With these poll margins, if Florida were to be one spot ahead of Michigan in each computer (or five out of six, since you throw out the high and low), it would not be enough to pass Michigan in the BCS.

That means that if USC loses next week, Florida must be impressive enough against Arkansas to change the minds of enough voters for their computer strength to come into play. I'm not ready to say exactly how strong Florida will be in the computers yet (all of the raw data isn't available yet), but no matter what, they have to change some minds.

The math on that is that if the Gators have a 1.0 edge in computer average over Michigan, they would need to be 57 points behind in the Harris poll and 31 points behind in the coaches poll to be ahead of the Wolverines in the BCS. Or some mathematical equivalent.
 
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Southern Cal has the number one SOS in the country.

When just taking opponents record and opponents' opponents records, USC is first and Florida is third.

When taking ALL KNOWN OPPONENTS records into consideration, USC is first and Florida is sixth.
 
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USC obliterated Arkansas. I will be surprised if UF beats them. If they do, I highly doubt it will be a big win.
 
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OrangeSquare said:
Florida played Div I-AA Western Carolina.

They barely deserve to play for a conference Championship.

USC has a higher SOS.
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The West Carolina thing was a function of not getting on the ball when they okayed the 12th game. They were the only team UF could get that would not demand a home-and-home and UF wanted the $ from another home game.

kptvol said:
USC obliterated Arkansas. I will be surprised if UF beats them. If they do, I highly doubt it will be a big win.
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I agree with that. This is probably aceademic.
 
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I doubt USC would destroy Arky again. I consider them lucky they got them before Nutt realized what he had in the backfield.
 
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OrangeSquare said:
Florida played Div I-AA Western Carolina.

They barely deserve to play for a conference Championship.

USC has a higher SOS.
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Also played cream puffs Central Florida and Southern Miss. With Florida Sate mired in mediocrity, Florida's out of conference schedule was pathetic.
 
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rockydoc said:
Also played cream puffs Central Florida and Southern Miss. With Florida Sate mired in mediocrity, Florida's out of conference schedule was pathetic.
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Central Florida and Southern Miss have both been pretty decent teams lately. UCF played Spurrier's Gamecocks about as tightly as the Vols did last year.
 
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I'd like to see UF in the NCG and it comes down on Hetland to attempt a 46 yard game winning field goal. :rofl:

Florida's defense is suspect, and it's field goal game is practically non-existent.
 
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I'm not sure what I'd like to see in college football... I don't think there's any perfect system that maintains the weight of the regular season. That's what I like about D-IA football.
 
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oklavol said:
If USC wins the BCS still fails IMO.
How do you tell Florida if they win out they aren't deserving of a shot at a NC?
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The same way they told Auburn...stop scheduling I-AA schools!

USC's non conference games were against Arkansas, Nebraska, and Notre Dame. Michigan's were against Vandy, Central Michigan, Notre Dame, and Ball State. Florida's were against Southern Miss, Central Florida, Western Carolina, and Florida State. Is there really a question of why Florida has not given themselves a shot to play for the title?

Also, Florida might have played a tougher conference schedule...might. LSU, Auburn, UT, and UGA have dropped the ball on that argument this season.

Michigan faced Ohio State and Wisconsin. USC did not face the conference schedule that Florida or Michigan did, however, that is rectified by playing their out of conference opponents.

Finally, everyone is talking about Florida being screwed as if it is a sure thing that Florida will beat Arkansas. I savor the moment went Urban loses and has to eat everything he has been saying the past two weeks.
 
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Florida's conference schedule definitely trumps USC's. I think theirs is also tougher than Michigan, but I suppose that's debatable. It's tough to argue against Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, and Tennessee (maybe UGA a little, because they did manage to topple the possible ACC champ). Still, had they managed to schedule any random 1-A school, no matter how crappy, I don't think we'd really have to argue about all this. They're getting what they deserve for playing Western whoever.
 
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