if you ever doubted the strength of the SEC

[99gator]

here is the list of conferences and members of the top 25 club in wins since 1933 (the ap poll era). rank in parentheses. winning percentage rank is in color.

Big 10
(2) ohio state (2)
(10) michigan (6)

Big 8
(1) oklahoma (3)
(6t) nebraska (10)

SWC
(3) texas (8)
(16) arkansas (24)

ACC
(18) clemson (21)
(21) georgia tech (not in top 25)

Pac 10
(8) southern cal (11)
(19) ucla (22)
(20) arizona state (19)

SEC
(4) tennessee (7)
(5) alabama (5)
(11) georgia (13)
(12) lsu (14)
(14t) auburn (16)
(14t) florida (17)
(24) mississippi (not ranked in the top 25)

others include

(6t) penn state (4)
(9) notre dame (9)
(13) miami, fl (15)
(17) fresno state (23)
(22) miami, oh (18)
(23) southern mississippi (20)
(25) west virginia (not ranked in the top 25)

schools in the top 25 in winning percentage but not wins

(1)boise state
(12) florida state
(25) central michigan

the big east was not included. several schools changed or joined conferences over the years, but they are listed based on where they spent the majority of time within this era. so, miami, fl, is now in the ACC, but were mostly an independent. same with each of those schools that this would apply to except notre dame which is still independent or other schools that are in non-bcs conferences.

FYI, the big 10 has only one other school ranked in the top 50 in wins and winning percentage......michigan state.

 

[kdiddie]

Interesting yet depressing at the same time. I am proud to say that the SEC earned their rankings....we beat the snot out of each other ever year....OSU, not so much

 

[therealUT]

here is the list of conferences and members of the top 25 club in wins since 1933 (the ap poll era). rank in parentheses. winning percentage rank is in color.

Big 10
(2) ohio state (2)
(10) michigan (6)

Big 8
(1) oklahoma (3)
(6t) nebraska (10)

SWC
(3) texas (8)
(16) arkansas (24)

ACC
(18) clemson (21)
(21) georgia tech (not in top 25)

Pac 10
(8) southern cal (11)
(19) ucla (22)
(20) arizona state (19)

SEC
(4) tennessee (7)
(5) alabama (5)
(11) georgia (13)
(12) lsu (14)
(14t) auburn (16)
(14t) florida (17)
(24) mississippi (not ranked in the top 25)

others include

(6t) penn state (4)
(9) notre dame (9)
(13) miami, fl (15)
(17) fresno state (23)
(22) miami, oh (18)
(23) southern mississippi (20)
(25) west virginia (not ranked in the top 25)

schools in the top 25 in winning percentage but not wins

(1)boise state
(12) florida state
(25) central michigan

the big east was not included. several schools changed or joined conferences over the years, but they are listed based on where they spent the majority of time within this era. so, miami, fl, is now in the ACC, but were mostly an independent. same with each of those schools that this would apply to except notre dame which is still independent or other schools that are in non-bcs conferences.

FYI, the big 10 has only one other school ranked in the top 50 in wins and winning percentage......michigan state.

I fail to see how this data can be used to compare conferences.

If anything, the fact that all but one of the SEC schools are ranked higher in aggregate wins then they are in winning percentage, while the modern day Big 10 schools show the opposite, would make one want to hide this data.

 

[tvolsfan]

I believe the AP Poll era is 1936 to the present. I think they had it before, but it has been released every year since 1936, and that is what i think 'poll' era is normally referring to.

 

[tvolsfan]

If anything, the fact that all but one of the SEC schools are ranked higher in aggregate wins then they are in winning percentage, while the modern day Big 10 schools show the opposite, would make one want to hide this data.

I think the fact that the Big 10 has 1 outright national title and 1 shared national title post integration should be enough to smother any argument they could make for their conference strength.

 

[YankeeVol]

Interesting stuff

 

[99gator]

I believe the AP Poll era is 1936 to the present. I think they had it before, but it has been released every year since 1936, and that is what i think 'poll' era is normally referring to.

i may have confused the beginning of the ap poll with the formation of the SEC.

if that's the case, i made a mistake, but i am not going to calculate this again.

the point of the thread was that to me, this is proof that several leagues were two team leagues for a long time.

i know there are split titles. however, michigan has 42 big 10 titles and ohio state has 35. so, tell me how balanced that league could really be historically.

nebraska had 41 big 8 titles and oklahoma had 33.

southern cal has 38 pac 10 titles.

no balance whatsoever.

 

[tvolsfan]

i may have confused the beginning of the ap poll with the formation of the SEC.

if that's the case, i made a mistake, but i am not going to calculate this again.

the point of the thread was that to me, this is proof that several leagues were two team leagues for a long time.

i know there are split titles. however, michigan has 42 big 10 titles and ohio state has 35. so, tell me how balanced that league could really be historically.

nebraska had 41 big 8 titles and oklahoma had 33.

southern cal has 38 pac 10 titles.

no balance whatsoever.

I agree.

I feel like OSU and Michigan have a lot of split titles though. Regardless, that would be something you would expect in every conference.

 

[Gilbert]

Very informative. Thanks for posting.

 

[rjd970]

I fail to see how this data can be used to compare conferences.

If anything, the fact that all but one of the SEC schools are ranked higher in aggregate wins then they are in winning percentage, while the modern day Big 10 schools show the opposite, would make one want to hide this data.

See the last 4 lines of post #7.