If you ran Nascar......

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615 Vol

615 Vol

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What changes would you make?

To start I would shorten the races and run more Saturday night races to allow people to travel home on Sunday and be at work on Monday. If it did rain, then Sunday would be a better make up day than Monday when we're all working, (well some of us :)). I would not shorten the Daytona 500 of course.
 
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615 Vol said:
What changes would you make?

To start I would shorten the races and run more Saturday night races to allow people to travel home on Sunday and be at work on Monday. If it did rain, then Sunday would be a better make up day than Monday when we're all working, (well some of us :)). I would not shorten the Daytona 500 of course.
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shorten races??? why? that's no fun.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
shorten races??? why? that's no fun.
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They last too long IMO, most people sleep through the middle of the race. I would at least start them a little earlier, they spend half the day counting down to green now.
 
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ya i can do w/out the countdown to green, however i enjoy the races, especially the longer ones.
 
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I'm already on record in an older thread in favor of shorter races. I could see keeping Daytona, Indy, Talladega and Charlotte with one long race. Otherwise I think they should be set where the race would be over in 2 to 2-1/2 hours. The racing would be more intense from green to checkered, and would cut expenses for teams and have the PR value of saving gasoline.
 
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1.Get rid of the BS "Lucky Dog" rule
2.Get rid of the BS "debris cautions"
3.Allow unlimited testing
4.Put a Road Course in the Chase
5.Drop a race date from California and New Hampshire. Add another road course (internationally) add another one.
6.Keep the 500 mile race at Pocono. I love the track and it's a unique track that I would love to drive on.
7.Do away with the top 35 rule. Only the top 15 should be locked into the field. The rest must qualify in.
8.Rearrange off weeks leaving an off week between races 26 and 27. Restructure the track placement during the chase.
9.Change TV contracts
10.Drop COT plans for the Nationwide series.
11.Stop limiting teams from 4 teams. It's inevitable, within the next 5 years they'll be ten 4 car teams with a couple of underdog teams running. There's nothing you can do to stop that, may as well speed the process up.
12.Allow as much R&D for the teams as they need. Hard work should be rewarded.


Of course none of this would be true because I would be in jail for murdering Brian France years ago.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
1.Get rid of the BS "Lucky Dog" rule
2.Get rid of the BS "debris cautions"
3.Allow unlimited testing
4.Put a Road Course in the Chase
5.Drop a race date from California and New Hampshire. Add another road course (internationally) add another one.
6.Keep the 500 mile race at Pocono. I love the track and it's a unique track that I would love to drive on.
7.Do away with the top 35 rule. Only the top 15 should be locked into the field. The rest must qualify in.
8.Rearrange off weeks leaving an off week between races 26 and 27. Restructure the track placement during the chase.
9.Change TV contracts
10.Drop COT plans for the Nationwide series.
11.Stop limiting teams from 4 teams. It's inevitable, within the next 5 years they'll be ten 4 car teams with a couple of underdog teams running. There's nothing you can do to stop that, may as well speed the process up.
12.Allow as much R&D for the teams as they need. Hard work should be rewarded.


Of course none of this would be true because I would be in jail for murdering Brian France years ago.
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Road courses are so boring, when it's road course wk i usually don't even turn on the race. adding another road course would be the worst thing possible. Pocono is another boring race
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
Road courses are so boring, when it's road course wk i usually don't even turn on the race. adding another road course would be the worst thing possible. Pocono is another boring race
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I love Pocono. It's a long race and I just love to see the field get strung out and watch guys work through the field. I don't like nor dislike road courses(I don't mind strategy, but every 10 seconds fuel mileage gets mentioned) but if they're going to be on the schedule they may as well be during the playoffs.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
1.Get rid of the BS "Lucky Dog" rule
2.Get rid of the BS "debris cautions"
3.Allow unlimited testing
4.Put a Road Course in the Chase
5.Drop a race date from California and New Hampshire. Add another road course (internationally) add another one.
6.Keep the 500 mile race at Pocono. I love the track and it's a unique track that I would love to drive on.
7.Do away with the top 35 rule. Only the top 15 should be locked into the field. The rest must qualify in.
8.Rearrange off weeks leaving an off week between races 26 and 27. Restructure the track placement during the chase.
9.Change TV contracts
10.Drop COT plans for the Nationwide series.
11.Stop limiting teams from 4 teams. It's inevitable, within the next 5 years they'll be ten 4 car teams with a couple of underdog teams running. There's nothing you can do to stop that, may as well speed the process up.
12.Allow as much R&D for the teams as they need. Hard work should be rewarded.


Of course none of this would be true because I would be in jail for murdering Brian France years ago.
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1. At 1st I thought that way, but it has grown on me.
3. I would tend to eliminate all testing, more even playing field.
4. Have already advocated that.
5. Agree with Cal., but Nascar doesn't own NH. I would add road course at Mid-Ohio, Road America, or Laguna Seca. Nascar doesn't need to go International.
6. I like Pocono too, but races are too long.
7. I would change it to either 25, or 0.
8. Not sure what you have in mind.
10. To keep the series a viable stepping stone into Cup the cars need to be more alike.
11. I would limit them to three teams, no more than four. I don't want to see fewer teams. It's only inevitable if you allow it to happen.
12. See no problem with that.

Brian France will probably do himself in in due time.
 
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rbroyles said:
1. At 1st I thought that way, but it has grown on me.
3. I would tend to eliminate all testing, more even playing field.
4. Have already advocated that.
5. Agree with Cal., but Nascar doesn't own NH. I would add road course at Mid-Ohio, Road America, or Laguna Seca. Nascar doesn't need to go International.
6. I like Pocono too, but races are too long.
7. I would change it to either 25, or 0.
8. Not sure what you have in mind.
10. To keep the series a viable stepping stone into Cup the cars need to be more alike.
11. I would limit them to three teams, no more than four. I don't want to see fewer teams. It's only inevitable if you allow it to happen.
12. See no problem with that.

Brian France will probably do himself in in due time.
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7.I meant to change my original. 20-25 is more of the range I was thinking
8.The guys need an off week before start of the chase. Not mention in case something happens and a race gets cancelled. Don't forget the near Michigan disaster last year
10.The Nationwide has already been killed by Cup drivers. The only thing a COT would do would force the remaining cup non-affiliated teams to come on up to Cup. I bet running the full season in cup and making 10 races and finishing mid 30's in the races you made would make more than running a solid season in the Nationwide. If the NWide goes to Cup, Braun racing and JR Motorsports both are moving up. The new development series is the truck series. I like what Scott Speed, Erik Darnell, Colin Braun, etc. are going. They can learn from a lot of veterans there and plus from what I hear the Trucks drive the closest to what the COT drives like.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
1.Get rid of the BS "Lucky Dog" rule
2.Get rid of the BS "debris cautions"
3.Allow unlimited testing
4.Put a Road Course in the Chase
5.Drop a race date from California and New Hampshire. Add another road course (internationally) add another one.
6.Keep the 500 mile race at Pocono. I love the track and it's a unique track that I would love to drive on.
7.Do away with the top 35 rule. Only the top 15 should be locked into the field. The rest must qualify in.
8.Rearrange off weeks leaving an off week between races 26 and 27. Restructure the track placement during the chase.
9.Change TV contracts
10.Drop COT plans for the Nationwide series.
11.Stop limiting teams from 4 teams. It's inevitable, within the next 5 years they'll be ten 4 car teams with a couple of underdog teams running. There's nothing you can do to stop that, may as well speed the process up.
12.Allow as much R&D for the teams as they need. Hard work should be rewarded.


Of course none of this would be true because I would be in jail for murdering Brian France years ago.
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rbroyles said:
1. At 1st I thought that way, but it has grown on me.
3. I would tend to eliminate all testing, more even playing field.
4. Have already advocated that.
5. Agree with Cal., but Nascar doesn't own NH. I would add road course at Mid-Ohio, Road America, or Laguna Seca. Nascar doesn't need to go International.
6. I like Pocono too, but races are too long.
7. I would change it to either 25, or 0.
8. Not sure what you have in mind.
10. To keep the series a viable stepping stone into Cup the cars need to be more alike.
11. I would limit them to three teams, no more than four. I don't want to see fewer teams. It's only inevitable if you allow it to happen.
12. See no problem with that.

Brian France will probably do himself in in due time.
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1. Lucky Dog rule is okay but the name of it in incredibly stupid. I like it but i think you should only be allowed to get it once. Reutimann got the Lucky Dog 5 times last weekend. absurd.

2. the debris cautions have gotten much better. i don't care if there is one as long as we can see the debris.

3. unlimited testing will kill the small teams. there should be more but it should be limited to one car, per team, per test. it brings in the element of sharing and it's fair to the small team.

4. road course in the Chase is fine.

5. lose a race in New Hamshire, the snoozefest...err Pocono, and California. give one date to Vegas, another to Nashville, and another to Iowa Speedway.

6. one Pocono race, 400 miles. honestly, if both dates were gone nobody would care after the first year.

7. fastest 43 cars race. the top 35 rule is asinine and ruins the point of qualifying.

8. moving the early off date to the week before the Chase is fine. the Chase schedule is fine with the exception that it needs a road course. nobody wants to choose between Bristol or Tennessee/Va Tech football games. Bristol is just an example. its date right now is perfect.

9. there's no thing wrong with the TV contracts, unless they want to lose FOX, which is fine with me.

10. the Busch cars definitely need to have some resemblance to Cup cars.

11. 3 teams is perfect. 4 is too many. 5 or more is ridiculous.

12. no problem here either.
 
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1. Reconfigure the Chase races. I'm sorry, but New Hampshire does not need a date in the Chase. I like the idea of a road course in the Chase just to add a track of every type in there.

2. Give one of New Hampshire's races to Kentucky, send the Labor Day race back to Darlington leaving California with one race. Take one race away from Pocono and send that race to Iowa Speedway.

3. Make winning a race worth more than 10 bonus points in the Chase and make winning a race in the Chase worth more than just a max. of 10 points ahead of 2nd.

4. Make the Chase the Top 10 again.

5. Make ticket prices cheaper at the races so the avg. Joe can afford to go to the races. If it's really all about the fans, then prove it.

6. Finally, most importantly, find a way to make the old car safer and scrap this failure of an idea called the COT.
 
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Shorten the races where they would be over in 2-3 hours, with the exception of Daytona, Charlotte, and Indy.

Eliminate the top 35 rule, and all provisionals for that matter. The fastest 43 cars are in.

Eliminate the "lucky dog" rule. I would then allow cars behind the pace car who are on the tail end of the lead lap to go around and catch up to the rear of the field, like they do in the IRL.

I would award 200 points for winning, and keep the rest of the points the way they are.

I would change the bonus points to award 5 bonus points to a driver who leads under green only. When the guy who is the last car on the lead lap stays out to lead, then pits and comes out exactly where he was, I don't see that he did anything worthy of earning 5 extra points.

Most if not all of the chase races would be night races. Nascar doesn't have a realistic chance of competing head to head with the NFL for TV ratings.
 
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SURFSIDEBEACHVOL said:
I would give back to Darlington The
Southern 500 on Labor Day weekend
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Thanks for reminding me I forgot to add that to my list, race should come from Cal. I put taking the Southern 500 from Labor Day as one of the top 3 blunders in the history of NASCAR.
 
#20
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IMO if team owners could do more to promote thier drivers it would enhance the perception that some casual fans have on nascar.
 
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there's no way they're going to move Bristol into a match-up with a college football weekend.

right now, i love the fact i don't have to choose. i understand if you don't ever go, but it's different for those who do or might.
 
#23
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1. Prevent "The France Kids" from any/all participation.
2. Abolish restrictor plates.
3. Abolish pit row speed limit.
4. Eliminate Toyota from NASCAR.
5. Eliminate some of the lame tracks.
6. Eliminate double dates at some tracks.
 
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Arclight said:
1. Prevent "The France Kids" from any/all participation.
2. Abolish restrictor plates.
3. Abolish pit row speed limit.
4. Eliminate Toyota from NASCAR.
5. Eliminate some of the lame tracks.
6. Eliminate double dates at some tracks.
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2. If they can keep the cars on the ground-great.
3. If so, abolish crewman safety gear so those hit won't linger too long in pain.
4. Why?
5. Who gets to decide which tracks are lame? Careful what you wish for.
6. I can go along with this, just don't mess with the ones I like.
 
#25
#25
As a lifelong NASCAR fan I think it could be so much better and here's just a small list of things I would personally do if I ran the sport:

1. The schedule - add a couple of more tracks to the schedule. First, I would eliminate one race from each of the following tracks: Pocono, New Hampshire, California, and Atlanta. If I could I would take one from Michigan too but I know that track is strategically located and that would never happen anyway. To replace the 4 races above I would add Nashville, Kentucky, Iowa, and Montreal to the schedule. NASCAR doesn't need to start racing all over creation but I think another road course would be a good fit and Montreal can accommodate the NASCAR Cup crowd much better than Mexico City can. Also, rearrange the Chase so there aren't as many cookie cutters in the actual Chase. I say put Bristol in the Chase as well as a road course at least to give a better mix of tracks.

2. Ease off the drivers and let them fuss and fight a little. My lord, NASCAR was BORN in 1979 in Daytona Beach - at least to the masses it was. Ken Squier with one of the most famous quotes in racing: "and there's a fight."

3. NO COT for the Nationwide - come up with a cheaper car instead of making owners come up with more money that some cannot afford to do. I liked the idea of having smaller V-6 cars for the series and making them totally different than the Cup cars and helping the series gain its own identity.

4. On the LAST LAP of any race you race back to the flag - period. I know some people whine and cry about safety but I think a race needs to end at the line on the last lap. It cheats fans out of money when a race ends by the scoring loop or where the cars were on track when the little yellow light came on. When they are racing to the flag everyone knows exactly where the end of the race takes place. This is my biggest pet peeve in the sport. The Lucky Dog can stay since they won't let them race back to the line under normal cautions. But on the last lap I say you race back to the line.

5. At about 15-18 races the teams arrive to the track a day earlier than they do now. This would be the new testing policy. Teams would have the option to arrive to the track one day early and test. This would save teams a ton of money since they are always testing anyway the way it is.

That's the main things I can think of right now. There are other things that I know I'll think of but those are my biggest problems with the way things are right now...
 
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