If you're KSU, you firing Tang?

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I assume these threads keep appearing b/c some say we should fire Barnes. The answer to the OP’s question is NO. And I will say that Barnes should not be fired and that he should remain at the helm until he decides to retire.
 
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Heck no.

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vol94 said:
I assume these threads keep appearing b/c some say we should fire Barnes. The answer to the OP’s question is NO. And I will say that Barnes should not be fired and that he should remain at the helm until he decides to retire.
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I agree, but Barnes needs to recruit better players and change his scheme so that defense doesn’t come at the expense of offense.
 
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Orange. said:
Easiest path to a FF in school history. Choked to a worthless no-name. 😂
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He made the elite 8 in his first year as head coach so probably not vs Barnes whom you're trying to defend has only been to 3 in 40 years of coaching and hasn't been to one in 14 years and has yet to take Tennessee to one. But it's OK, this is peak Tennessee basketball and UT just has to over pay.

The argument is always well who are you going to get to do what Barnes has done here. That same side also argues this is the best Tennessee basketball will ever be so it shouldn't be that hard. Finish in the top 8 or 9 in conference and make the field of 68 every year and you got similar results. I'm not advocating for Barnes to be fired but I do think it's time to start thinking about an exit strategy.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
He accomplished more in his first year at K State (elite 8) than Barnes has in 8 years at Tennessee.

Barnes is not going to be fired. The best we can hope for is that he retires in the next couple of years.
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Tang didn’t win a conference championship for season long excellence, as Barnes has here. Nor did Tang win a conference tournament, as Barnes did while ending our 42 yr SEC tournament championship drought. Tang didn’t elevate KSU to #1 in the country for several weeks, as Barnes has done here. Barnes has had 3 better seasons here than Tang had at KSU this year.

Now, back to the gripes over Barnes going 2-1 in this year’s single elimination Dance. It seems to be the only criteria some value. Maybe these are part time fans who only pay attention at the end of season. Or maybe they can’t remember past the LAST game- the game >99% of teams lose. Either way, I think they unnecessarily discount a 5 month journey, and are skewed to the end.
 
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VolsSince78 said:
Tang didn’t win a conference championship for season long excellence, as Barnes has here. Nor did Tang win a conference tournament, as Barnes did while getting us off a 42 yr SEC tournament championship drought. Tang didn’t elevate KSU to #1 in the country for several weeks, as Barnes has done here. Barnes has had 3 better seasons here than Tang had at KSU this year.

Now, back to the gripes over Barnes going 2-1 in this year’s single elimination Dance. It seems to be the only criteria some value. Maybe these are part time fans who only pay attention at the end of season. Or maybe they can’t remember past the LAST game- the game >99% of teams lose. Either way, I think they unnecessarily discount a 5 month journey, and are skewed to the end.
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8 teams were better than TN’s 2-1 in the NCAAT this year. I don’t know if any of those had 3 starters miss games with injuries. 4 if you include Key (he started 15 games). JJJ missed a third of the season due to injuries.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
8 teams were better than TN’s 2-1 in the NCAAT this year. I don’t know if any of those had 3 starters miss games with injuries. 4 if you include Key (he started 15 games). JJJ missed a third of the season due to injuries.
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The thread about perspective a couple of days ago really sums up a lot of posters on this site. They don't have it. We made it further in the tournament than all of the complainers thought we would, but they act like they predicted we would win it all. The injuries kept this team from gelling all year. Santi has not been the same shooter since the shoulder injury. JJJ at times acts like his knee is still a distraction. I don't think Key has actually recovered from his injury last year. Losing ZZ when we did was the final dagger. We still made it to the sweet 16 and demolished Duke along the way. A lot to be proud of with this team.
 
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VolsSince78 said:
Tang didn’t win a conference championship for season long excellence, as Barnes has here. Nor did Tang win a conference tournament, as Barnes did while ending our 42 yr SEC tournament championship drought. Tang didn’t elevate KSU to #1 in the country for several weeks, as Barnes has done here. Barnes has had 3 better seasons here than Tang had at KSU this year.

Now, back to the gripes over Barnes going 2-1 in this year’s single elimination Dance. It seems to be the only criteria some value. Maybe these are part time fans who only pay attention at the end of season. Or maybe they can’t remember past the LAST game- the game >99% of teams lose. Either way, I think they unnecessarily discount a 5 month journey, and are skewed to the end.
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Yeah because everybody knows the regular season is what matters in college basketball. Just like it’s what matters in college football, in the NFL, in the NBA, in MLB, etc. Oh, wait, nobody gives a damn about the regular season in any of those. How many conference basketball tournaments get aired on CBS? Why do you think that is?
 
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VolsSince78 said:
Tang didn’t win a conference championship for season long excellence, as Barnes has here. Nor did Tang win a conference tournament, as Barnes did while ending our 42 yr SEC tournament championship drought. Tang didn’t elevate KSU to #1 in the country for several weeks, as Barnes has done here. Barnes has had 3 better seasons here than Tang had at KSU this year.

Now, back to the gripes over Barnes going 2-1 in this year’s single elimination Dance. It seems to be the only criteria some value. Maybe these are part time fans who only pay attention at the end of season. Or maybe they can’t remember past the LAST game- the game >99% of teams lose. Either way, I think they unnecessarily discount a 5 month journey, and are skewed to the end.
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Tang has had 1 season at KSU, he's a first year head coach sooooooo.

Regardless, basketball is a tournament sport and Rick Barnes record in the NCAA tournament is mediocre.

Again all this transitive property stuff was supposed to be sarcastic but some of you have really ran with it.

Yes, winning in the NCAA tournament is hard but that's why they make the big bucks, right?

Regardless, this is peak Tennessee basketball and it is what it is.
 
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Sure they should, then they can look as ridiculous as the fools calling for UT to move on from Barnes or Kellie.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
He accomplished more in his first year at K State (elite 8) than Barnes has in 8 years at Tennessee.

Barnes is not going to be fired. The best we can hope for is that he retires in the next couple of years.
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Im curious as to who you think we can go get when he does, that will take the program to the next step ? I am asking for realistic answers.
 
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No, because Tang said after the Michigan State game that all they do is love each other. That was basically his answer when asked about how they won. So, they won't fire him if it's all about love.
 
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