In Congress July 4, 1776

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I bow before the eloquence of Thomas Jefferson and the Continental Congress:



IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s god entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light & transient causes, and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. but when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, & to provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; & such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. the history of the present king of Great Britain, is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states, to prove this let the facts be submitted to a candid world.


He has refused his assent to laws most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
he has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate & pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
he has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinguish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inalienable to them, & formidable to tyrants only.
he has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, &distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
he has dissolved Representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
he has refused for a long time after such dissolutions to cause others to be elected whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise, the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, & convulsions from within.
he has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass to encourage their migrations hither; & raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.
he has obstructed the administration of justice by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.
he has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount & paiment of their salaries.
he has erected a multitude of new offices, & sent hither swarms of officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
he has kept among us, in time of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislatures.
he has affected to render the military independant of, & superior to, the civil power.
he has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitutions and unackowleged by our laws; giving assent to their acts of pretended legislation.
for quartering large bodies of armed troops among us;
for protecting them by a mock-trial from punishment for any murders they should commit on the inhabitants of these states;
for cutting off our trade with all parts of the world;
for imposing taxes on us without our assent;
for depriving us, in many cases of the benefits of trial by jury;
for transporting us beyond the seas to be tried for pretended offenses;
for abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example & fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these states;
for taking away our charters abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments;
for suspending our own legislatures, & declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
he has abdicated government here by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.
he has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, & destroyed the lives of our people.
he is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries, to compleat the works of death, desolation, & tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation.
he has excited domestic insurrections amongst us and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes, & conditions.
he has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become executioners of their friends & bretheren, or to fall themselves by their hands.


In every stage of these oppressions, we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms; our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. a prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.


Nor have we been wanting in our attentions to our British brethren. we have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. we have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here, we have appealed to their native justice & magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the types of our common kindred, to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections & correspondence. they too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity; we must therefore acquiesce in the necessity which denounces our separation and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, friends in peace.


We, therefore the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress assembled, appealing to the supreme judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name and by authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved of all allegiance to the British crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain is & ought to be totally dissolved; & that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, &to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, and with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.


John Hancock


New Hampshire

Josiah Bartlett
Matthew Thornton
Wm. Whipple


Massachusetts Bay

Saml. Adams
Elbridge Gerry
John Adams
Robt. Treat Paine


Rhode Island

Step. Hopkins
William Ellery


Connecticut

Roger Sherman
Wm. Williams
Sam'el Huntington
Oliver Wolcott


New York

Wm. Floyd
Frans. Lewis
Phil. Livingston
Lewis Morris


New Jersey

Richd. Stockton
John Hart
Jno. Witherspoon
Abra. Clark
Fras. Hopkinson


Pennsylvania

Robt. Morris
Jas. Smith
Benjamin Rush
Geo. Taylor
Benja. Franklin
James Wilson
John Morton
Geo. Ross
Geo. Clymer


Delaware


Caesar Rodney

Tho. M'kean
Geo. Read


Maryland

Samuel Chase
Thos. Stone
Wm. Paca
Charles Carroll of Carrollton


Virginia


Thomas Nelson, Jr.
Richard Henry Lee
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Th. Jefferson
Carter Braxton
Benja. Harrison


North Carolina

Wm. Hooper
John Penn
Joseph Hewes


South Carolina

Edward Rutledge
Arthur Middleton
Thos. Heyward, Junr
Thomas Lynch, Junr


Georgia


Button Gwinnett
Geo. Walton
Lyman Hall
 
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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.... Unless you're a woman, black, gay, Asian, etc. It's a nice piece of literature, but it was propaganda to get all those to join in that weren't for cutting ties with the mother country.

I'm as patriotic as the next guy, but we had an entire civil war based almost entirely on the belief that all men are NOT created equal. And people are pumping fists TODAY, because the SCOTUS just voted that homosexuals could possibly finally have life, liberty an the pursuit of happiness.

I'm a proud American. We've come a long way, but this great document is filled with the type of hypocrisy we are fighting to get away from.

Otherwise, happy Independence Day!!
 
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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.... Unless you're a woman, black, gay, Asian, etc. It's a nice piece of literature, but it was propaganda to get all those to join in that weren't for cutting ties with the mother country.

I'm as patriotic as the next guy, but we had an entire civil war based almost entirely on the belief that all men are NOT created equal. And people are pumping fists TODAY, because the SCOTUS just voted that homosexuals could possibly finally have life, liberty an the pursuit of happiness.

I'm a proud American. We've come a long way, but this great document is filled with the type of hypocrisy we are fighting to get away from.

Otherwise, happy Independence Day!!

Looks like somebody's bottle rockets got wet.
 
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I'm a very proud American. My point is that there are many more reasons to take pride in being a member of the USA. The DoI was written as propaganda, and it sounds great, it really does. However, actions speak louder than (written) words, and America's actions have been mostly inconsistent with this great document.

Here's why I love America:

1. We stand up for what we believe in.
2. We withstood a civil war and have found a way to come back together.
3. We stand up in the wake of disaster and tragedy, and put behind us any differences we have with our fellow Americans.
4. We have created a style and standard of living that makes the rest of the world jealous.
5. We have so many citizens that care about so many others. And as a result, we have charities to feed starving children of third-world countries.
6. We have developed a system of diplomacy that has, for the most part, allowed us to work with all others.
7. We have made medical and technological advances that have improved the entire world greatly.
8. We have rights in this country that citizens of other countries would literally kill for.
9. Our citizens are patriotic. Sure, there are some residents that complain about EVERYTHING, but for the most part, we all love this great country.
10. We have so many places, so many different areas, so many different demographics, so many styles, so many beliefs, etc., yet, there is always somewhere in America to be accepted.

God bless America. I'm so grateful to have been blessed enough to have been born here.

Again, happy Independence Day!
 
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I'm a very proud American. My point is that there are many more reasons to take pride in being a member of the USA. The DoI was written as propaganda, and it sounds great, it really does. However, actions speak louder than (written) words, and America's actions have been mostly inconsistent with this great document.

You listed actions America has taken to correct the issues you highlighted. I'd say America, more than most if not all other countries, takes action consistent with the principles listed in the Declaration even if it did not in the context of 1776. Perhaps acknowledge that the propaganda these dudes put out set forth the events that brought you to love what you love today.
 
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You listed actions America has taken to correct the issues you highlighted. I'd say America, more than most if not all other countries, takes action consistent with the principles listed in the Declaration even if it did not in the context of 1776. Perhaps acknowledge that the propaganda these dudes put out set forth the events that brought you to love what you love today.

It would be easier if we now believed that all men are created equal. It would also be easier if we believed that everyone had the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I don't think we are there yet. We may be in the next 100 years, I don't know.

My point was that I don't think the DoI is admirable. I think the USA's durability through the Revolutionary War is. I think the creation of a democratic state and the adoption of the Bill of Rights is. I think a system of checks and balances is. I think the fact that we STILL have a working Constitution after nearly 250 years is certainly admirable.

A revolution was inevitable in my opinion. A document of propaganda was used as a catalyst for it.
 
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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.... Unless you're a woman, black, gay, Asian, etc. It's a nice piece of literature, but it was propaganda to get all those to join in that weren't for cutting ties with the mother country.

I'm as patriotic as the next guy, but we had an entire civil war based almost entirely on the belief that all men are NOT created equal. And people are pumping fists TODAY, because the SCOTUS just voted that homosexuals could possibly finally have life, liberty an the pursuit of happiness.

I'm a proud American. We've come a long way, but this great document is filled with the type of hypocrisy we are fighting to get away from.

Otherwise, happy Independence Day!!

A patriot is someone who is distrustful of government and strives to protect the community from overreach by foreign and domestic authorities . Patriotism is not about blind fidelity to a nation. I'd be surprised if half the founders were cool with the pledge of allegiance. To them family, God, community, state, etc. all came way before country. They didn't believe it was "one nation...indivisible".
 
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A patriot is someone who is distrustful of government and strives to protect the community from overreach by foreign and domestic authorities . Patriotism is not about blind fidelity to a nation. I'd be surprised if half the founders were cool with the pledge of allegiance. To them family, God, community, state, etc. all came way before country. They didn't believe it was "one nation...indivisible".

When I was a kid, I used to think it was One Nation, Invisible
 
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A patriot is someone who is distrustful of government and strives to protect the community from overreach by foreign and domestic authorities . Patriotism is not about blind fidelity to a nation. I'd be surprised if half the founders were cool with the pledge of allegiance. To them family, God, community, state, etc. all came way before country. They didn't believe it was "one nation...indivisible".

Exactly my point. The DoI was a tool to promote a war more than a document to found principles of a new country. Which is why I think to celebrate pride in America, one should list more than a false promise of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
 
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKsW6c_CgFY[/youtube]

God bless
 
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoLywiaM6PA[/youtube]

This one is always good.
 
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Pseudo-intellectual claptrap because it doesn't matchup with your beliefs? Ok, buddy.

It was a claptrap because you correctly identified the incitement, but idiotically ignored the secession and inherent risk for the signers. Jefferson wrote that document and obliterated the Crown, but it was massively cut down prior to send. Jefferson invoked God as a rallying point, but firmly believed in the philosophy of the document.

Regardless, don't let that stop you from your American apology approach to our history. Those signers were just self-serving douchebags.
 
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It was a claptrap because you correctly identified the incitement, but idiotically ignored the secession and inherent risk for the signers. Jefferson wrote that document and obliterated the Crown, but it was massively cut down prior to send. Jefferson invoked God as a rallying point, but firmly believed in the philosophy of the document.

Regardless, don't let that stop you from your American apology approach to our history. Those signers were just self-serving douchebags.

You apparently ignored everything else I said. The Revolution makes me wish I could have been standing side-by-side with every soldier that withstood the horrible conditions and seemingly inevitable defeat to separate our colonies from the crown. Indepenendence is what we are are celebrating today. I made a statement that the DoI was hypocritical and everyone gets in a tizzy. Smile sometime people. Life's too short. And God bless you and every other American, especially troops and vets on this day.
 
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I doubt he'll get the parody:

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Smh... For someone that proudly posted a document that invoked a group of colonies to stand together, you sure are quick to try to tear another American down for having an opinion. Try that irony on for size.
 

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