in my idea the problem with ainge

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is he is to scared to lose the qb job. some clarification....


lets revisit his stats last year.

last year first three games.
170 yds per game (only playing half the game too)
64 completion percentage
8 touchdowns, just under 3 touchdowns a game
0.3 ints a game

he did that in half the game each game splitin time with brent.

rest of season after first three games ( 6 games)
157 yards per game (almost playing the whole game)
53 completion percentage
9 touchdowns 1 a game.
1.3 turnovers a game.

keep in mind by then he played almsot the whole time.

so he obviously played much better in his first three games.

the difference between the first three gams and the rest was that the first three games he was a backup.
after that he started.

he played so well coming of the bench. he must have felt like there was no pressure.

when he started, he played completely different. one game he throws 3 td's a s a backup. next game he has 6 turnovers agaisnt auburn (first start). he was a completely different guy. he has played better of the bench when he feels like it is his job to win the starting spot. when he starts, he must feel like he is in danger of losing the spot. i dont blame everything on the hit against nd. that may be effecting him but i balme the mane reason is expectations of being the starter.
 
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Originally posted by tvolsfan@Oct 5, 2005 6:11 PM
is he is to scared to lose the qb job. some clarification....
lets revisit his stats last year.

last year first three games.
170 yds per game (only playing half the game too)
64 completion percentage
3 touchdowns a game
0.3 ints a game

he did that in half the game each game splitin time with brent.

rest of season after first three games ( 6 games)
157 yards per game (almost playing the whole game)
53 completion percentage
9 touchdowns
1.3 turnovers a game.

keep in mind by then he played almsot the whole time.

so he obviously played much better in his first three games.

the difference between the first three gams and the rest was that the first three games he was a backup.
after that he started.

he played so well coming of the bench. he must have felt like there was no pressure.

when he started, he played completely different. one game he throws 3 td's a s a backup. next game he has 6 turnovers agaisnt auburn (first start). he was a completely different guy. he has played better of the bench when he feels like it is his job to win the starting spot. when he starts, he must feel like he is in danger of losing the spot. i dont blame everything on the hit against nd. that may be effecting him but i balme the mane reason is expectations of being the starter.
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He started at LSU and stunk up the joint. He is scared to get hit and has lost his balls. He is done, period! :twocents:
 
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I haven't written him off, but if competition (looking over his shoulder) is to much pressure to perform his best, is the actual problem.
How will he react in the spring/summer camps, taking snaps beside Jon Crompton instead of Rick Clausen?
He'll really need to gather his composure and maintain it.
 
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As much as I hate to say it mainly because I'm a huge Erik Ainge fan, if he don't get his act together and step it up, Crompton will be our man next year...Which won't bother me a bit, as long as he gets the job done
 
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Ainge needs to be ready this year, because Rick will sooner or later go back to his true sucking self that can't throw past 5 yards.
 
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Originally posted by Jmxvol@Oct 5, 2005 11:32 PM
Ainge needs to be ready this year, because Rick will sooner or later go back to his true sucking self that can't throw past 5 yards.
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You really have no clue. I thought it was an act but its not!
 
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I hope that Ainge can get himself ready THIS year. Clausen is beat up and a few more hits like last week and Ainge is our guy again. I love Clausen, but how much more damage can he take? If not Ainge #2 then who? Last I saw Hadegree and Cooter were numbers 4,5 behind Fayton and the coaches were thining Lucas Taylor about the other two anyway.
 
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You guys better get used to Ainge, because he will be starting for the Vols before the season is up.

Bigdaddy makes a point, our starting qb in Clausen is in a walking boot on Wednesday but is ready to go on Saturday????? How much is he practicing?

JMX, unfortunately, I agree with you. The 5 yard pass will not beat UGA, Alabama or ND, eventually one of these teams is going to have their DB's jam our receivers at the line and make Clausen hit the fade/slant/20 yard+ pass. I don't think Clausen is accurate enough to make that throw.
 
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Ainge needs to be ready this year, because Rick will sooner or later go back to his true sucking self that can't throw past 5 yards.


I really glad there were no forums after Darryl Dickey took over for Robinson. You would be as ignorant then as you are now. It is more than a arm. It is heart and the confidence of his peers. With Dickey The vols got better as a team than with Robinson. He doesnt have the arm and probably not as strong as RC but he got the job done. RC encompasses alot of what Dickey had to do as well.
 
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There are two problems with Ainge I think but hopefully he can overcome them because he has a lot of potential. The problems I see are (1) This was mentioned above. He does not handle the competition from another Qb very well. I think he becomes nervous and and totally loses his confidence. (2) This is just a gut feeling. It seems the team doesn't rally around him. They don't seem to support him. If this is so then there are reasons for it. Too much cockiness or too much ego around the clubhouse, too much snobbiness.... or something. Again this is just my feeling... and if it is correct he must establish a better relationship with his team members.
 
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We need a QB for the future. Crompton will be the guy. We don't have any great QB's right now. Clausen's comeback against LSU is a feel-good story, but if we want to win a NC, we need a better QB than any we have playing right now.

I'm not saying Ainge and Clausen are bad. They're good QB's. Maybe the receivers can learn to catch a perfectly thrown Ainge pass some day. (Yes, he did put some pretty passes into our WR's hands against LSU early in the game.) It wasn't all Ainge's fault. His knucklehead pass, unfortunatley, will be what EVERY person in America will remember him by.

I miss Andy Kelly!!
 
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Originally posted by brg72@Oct 6, 2005 11:57 AM
I really glad there were no forums after Darryl Dickey took over for Robinson.  You would be as ignorant then as you are now. It is more than a arm. It is heart and the confidence of his peers. With Dickey The vols got better as a team than with Robinson. He doesnt have the arm and probably not as strong as RC but he got the job done. RC encompasses alot of what Dickey had to do as well.
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Come talk to me after Rick Clausen wins the SEC and the Sugar Bowl
 
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Reading b/w the lines and listening to Clausen other teamates, I think that Ainge does not prepare appropriately. He will be fine if he follows RCs model of leadership.
 
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Originally posted by Volunteer@Oct 6, 2005 6:55 AM
You guys better get used to Ainge, because he will be starting for the Vols before the season is up.

Bigdaddy makes a point, our starting qb in Clausen is in a walking boot on Wednesday but is ready to go on Saturday?????  How much is he practicing?

JMX, unfortunately, I agree with you.  The 5 yard pass will not beat UGA, Alabama or ND, eventually one of these teams is going to have their DB's jam our receivers at the line and make Clausen hit the fade/slant/20 yard+ pass.  I don't think Clausen is accurate enough to make that throw.
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If you dont think clausen is accurate enough to make those throws then you surely dont think ainge can!!
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Oct 5, 2005 6:14 PM
He started at LSU and stunk up the joint. He is scared to get hit and has lost his balls. He is done, period! :twocents:
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And you take up for majors. Throw a kid under the bus but keep giving a drunk old coach the benefit of the doubt.
 
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His team-mates have to like him he is not a good team player look at the LSU game . There isa reason for a team to respond when another player comes on the field. If Rick does not start the Vols may lose to Georgia that becomes a team' reaction to a coaches choice [The man eating Gator and the VOL FAN
 
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Originally posted by VolBeef88@Oct 6, 2005 4:45 PM
And you take up for majors. Throw a kid under the bus but keep giving a drunk old coach the benefit of the doubt.
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I don't defend some of Majors behavior. Ainge though, he lost his guts, plane and simple. He don't want to get hit any more! He is done. His teamates know he is gunshy and that is when one is really done.
 
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Look, Ainge has guts, and probably more than any QB weve had in a while...he's cocky and confident, I just think the whole thing where they opened up the position in the spring has messed him up. I know everyone is gonna get flaming mad but I still think Erik is the better choice...I just look at what he did last year and think he is too damn good. We have a guy that won in athens last year and he's gonna be on the bench this Sat...........
 
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Although I'll admit his confidence has traveled a little South at this point.
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Oct 6, 2005 6:03 PM
I don't defend some of Majors behavior. Ainge though, he lost his guts, plane and simple. He don't want to get hit any more! He is done. His teamates know he is gunshy and that is when one is really done.
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That is your opinion. Mine is that EA is a great kid and will be a great qb.
As far as you not defending Majors? uh, ok. I find it funny how quick some of you are to quit on a kid. Thank goodness you are not the coach. Even the old drunk coach didn't give up in kids as fast as you.
 
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