In the history of the world, what country has bent over backwards

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for any one and every one........

Honestly........ we the most evil country in the world?

FOXNews.com - Appeals Court: Paper Money Discriminates Against Blind - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

WASHINGTON — Close your eyes, reach into your wallet and try to distinguish between a $1 bill and a $5 bill. Impossible? It's also discriminatory, a federal appeals court says.
Since all paper money feels pretty much the same, the government is denying blind people meaningful access to the currency, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled Tuesday. The decision could force the Treasury Department to make bills of different sizes or print them with raised markings or other distinguishing features.
The American Council of the Blind sued for such changes, but the government has been fighting the case for about six years.
The U.S. acknowledges the current design hinders blind people, but it argues that they have adapted. Some rely on store clerks to help, some use credit cards and others fold certain corners to help distinguish between bills.
"I don't think we should have to rely on people to tell us what our money is," said Mitch Pomerantz, the Council of the Blind president.
Others say they manage but not always easily.
"When I pay for something and I get change back, I'm very slow and methodical. I'll ask, 'Is this the 10? Is this the five? Is this the one?"' said Kim Charlson, the library director at the Perkins School for the Blind, which is Helen Keller's alma mater.

Some use electronic currency readers. But they can be expensive, and they sometimes have problems with new $20 bills.
"It's slow," said Sam McClain, who manages a snack shop in a legislative office building near the Georgia Capitol. He has a currency reader but usually relies on the honesty of his customers. "Sometimes I have 10 or 15 people in here, and I can't use it."
The court ruled 2-1 that such adaptations were insufficient under the Rehabilitation Act. The government might as well argue that there's no need to make buildings accessible to wheelchairs because handicapped people can crawl on all fours or ask passers-by for help, the court said.
"Even the most searching tactile examination will reveal no difference between a $100 bill and a $1 bill. The secretary has identified no reason that requires paper currency to be uniform to the touch," Judge Judith W. Rogers wrote for the majority.
Courts don't decide how to design currency. That's up to the Treasury Department, and the ruling forces the department to address what the court called a discriminatory problem.
That could still take years. But since blindness becomes more common with age, people in their 30s and 40s should know that, when they get older, "they will be able to identify their $1 bills from their fives, tens and twenties," said Pomerantz, of the Council of the Blind.
Redesigned bills could also mean more job opportunities, since employers often hesitate to hire blind workers for jobs handling money, said Charlson, of the Perkins School for the Blind.
"When there are so few things in your life that you've got total control over, being able to even take care of your own money is such a big step, without requiring someone to tell you whether you've got enough money to go out and get a beer or have a hamburger," she said.
The government could ask for a rehearing by the full appeals court or challenge the decision to the Supreme Court.
Treasury Department spokeswoman Brookly McLaughlin said the department was reviewing the opinion. She noted that the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, which prints the nation's currency, recently hired a contractor to consider ways to help the blind. The results will be available early next year, she said.
While the government has been fighting to overturn the lower court ruling, it has been taking some steps toward modifying U.S. currency for the visually impaired. The most recent currency redesign of the $5 bill introduced in March features a giant "5" printed in purple on one side of the bill to help those with vision problems distinguish the bill.
Indeed, Treasury has previously considered making different sizes of bills but ran into opposition from makers of vending and change machines. Government lawyers raised this issue in court, saying it could cost billions to redesign vending machines. But the court said such data are murky, especially since one proposed solution would be to leave $1 bills unchanged.
Given recent U.S. redesigns, the appeals court ruled the U.S. failed to explain why adding more changes would be an undue burden. More than 100 other countries vary the size of their bills, a federal judge said in 2006, and others include at least some features to help the blind. The appeals court said the U.S. never explained why such solutions wouldn't work here.
Not all blind people agree that U.S. money should be changed. The National Federation of the Blind sided with the government and told the appeals court that no changes were needed.
Charlie Richardson, the legally blind manager of Charlie's Express Stop inside the Capitol in Albany, N.Y., said he doesn't oppose changing the money but disagrees with the ruling.
"To actually be discriminated against is to have something denied to you," Richardson said. "We're not denied the use of money."

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This doesn't show our desire to be a country that "bends over backwards".

It shows how far behind we are compared to other prominent and civilized nations.
 
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This doesn't show our desire to be a country that "bends over backwards".

It shows how far behind we are compared to other prominent and civilized nations.

yeah, it's amazing our republic hasn't fallen because blind people have a hard time paying with paper money.

what's next, radio stations for the deaf?
 
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i can understand making money with ridges in it or something, but to come out and say we discriminated against the blind is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. again more proof that this country is turning into a big pansy. scared we might offend someone.
 
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yeah, it's amazing our republic hasn't fallen because blind people have a hard time paying with paper money.

what's next, radio stations for the deaf?

Sad sarcasm. Actually a pathetic play on crippling handicaps.
 
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You should travel internationally. The money is very discernable between denominations. It is nice for everyone and an added benefit for the handicapped.
I suspect that I have traveled internationally as much as you have, but I could be wrong there.

Regardless, different sized money is hardly a sign of advanced civilization. Trying to spin it as such and piling on with the broad implication that other societies are much more advanced than we are was just absurd to me.

I honestly think you and I have come to some understanding of one another and I can sometimes understand your point of view, but I just found that comment too eerily similar to what I would expect from a surrendering Frenchman.
 
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I suspect that I have traveled internationally as much as you have, but I could be wrong there.

Regardless, different sized money is hardly a sign of advanced civilization. Trying to spin it as such and piling on with the broad implication that other societies are much more advanced than we are was just absurd to me.

I honestly think you and I have come to some understanding of one another and I can sometimes understand your point of view, but I just found that comment too eerily similar to what I would expect from a surrendering Frenchman.

After re-reading my post, I can see how I was misinterpreted. Our currency system is behind in terms of easily recognizing different denominations. I am in no way saying that different sized money is a sign of advanced civilization. Only that it is an easy and quite intuitive approach to printing money. The fact we haven't migrated to some form of that is actually hard to believe. And my opinion is that this is not an appeasement for handicapped people, but more of a common sense issue.

I was in no way bashing the US as a whole and saying we are behind in anything other than the specific purpose of this thread.
 
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I suspect that I have traveled internationally as much as you have, but I could be wrong there.

Regardless, different sized money is hardly a sign of advanced civilization. Trying to spin it as such and piling on with the broad implication that other societies are much more advanced than we are was just absurd to me.

I honestly think you and I have come to some understanding of one another and I can sometimes understand your point of view, but I just found that comment too eerily similar to what I would expect from a surrendering Frenchman.

It was condescending... and the assupmtion made was that other countries may have differing sizes of paper currency specifically because they are concerned about the blind... Completely ruled out the possibility that maybe in other countries, they just want to be different or have unique/original currency designs.
 
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It was condescending... and the assupmtion made was that other countries may have differing sizes of paper currency specifially because they are concerned about the blind... Completely ruled out the possibility that maybe in other countries, they just want to be different or have unique/original currency designs.

Difference in currency size is for denomination recognition for everyone - not only the blind.
 
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You know on second thought, one size money is a great idea. In fact, let's get rid of pesky coin sizes, we should make all coins, regardless of denomination, the size and feel of pennies. That will greatly simplify everyone's life.
 
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You know on second thought, one size money is a great idea. In fact, let's get rid of pesky coin sizes, we should make all coins, regardless of denomination, the size and feel of pennies. That will greatly simplify everyone's life.

I'm not enjoying your cynicism, Mr. Optimistic
 
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You know on second thought, one size money is a great idea. In fact, let's get rid of pesky coin sizes, we should make all coins, regardless of denomination, the size and feel of pennies. That will greatly simplify everyone's life.

well that's just a terrible idea. The soft drink lobby would have a field day getting that shot down :)
 
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well that's just a terrible idea. The soft drink lobby would have a field day getting that shot down :)
but they would be strongly opposed by the wallet, change purse and money clip mfrs, who are salivating at the idea of everyone having to buy new money carriers.

Is Coach a public stock?
 
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Hey lets put a small talking chip in the money like the new greeting cards have. When you pinch it, it says IM A FIVE!
 
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but they would be strongly opposed by the wallet, change purse and money clip mfrs, who are salivating at the idea of everyone having to buy new money carriers.

Is Coach a public stock?

well then you just bring PETA into the issue because you know they will want to use leather.
 
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Why not implant a debit/credit card into every ones wrist............. this way we ensure that no one will be a victim of ID fraud.
 

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