Incandescent Light Bulb Ban

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Were people aware of this? It was passed under Bush, and it's finally time to start taking action on this policy. Thought this was pretty funny:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO5lGpFGcJY&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

Again, I ask the question....if government is capable of doing something so stupid right under our noses, why do we trust them with ANYTHING important?
 
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nbakerld said:
Were people aware of this? It was passed under Bush, and it's finally time to start taking action on this policy. Thought this was pretty funny:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO5lGpFGcJY&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

Again, I ask the question....if government is capable of doing something so stupid right under our noses, why do we trust them with ANYTHING important?
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It's been in the news for a long time. That along with the possibility of mercury poisoning with the newer "environmentally friendly" bulbs.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
It's been in the news for a long time. That along with the possibility of mercury poisoning with the newer "environmentally friendly" bulbs.
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It's not just a possibility. They're dangerous enough that they require special procedures in order to properly dispose of them. For example, you can't just toss them in the trash when they go out like you can with incandecents. IIRC, you're supposed to put them next to your trash (when you take it out) in a glass jar that is taped close. Also, if a CFL breaks indoors you're supposed to open all the windows to properly ventilate your home/office and mitigate any mercury inhalation.
 
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The mercury problem has been overstated.

That said, I still think it's ridiculous that these are banned.

The other fun fact is that there is no (or very little) US-based production of CFLs but there was US-based production of incandescents.
 
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Does anyone see the irony? In a democratic-republic, the people, who hold the franchise, are too stupid to know what lightbulbs to pick. You are smart enough to vote for your Senator, but you aren't smart enough to decide what lightbulbs to use.

Am I the only one who sees something wrong with that?

(and the lightbulbs are not an isolated incident)
 
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RespectTradition said:
Does anyone see the irony? In a democratic-republic, the people, who hold the franchise, are too stupid to know what lightbulbs to pick. You are smart enough to vote for your Senator, but you aren't smart enough to decide what lightbulbs to use.

Am I the only one who sees something wrong with that?

(and the lightbulbs are not an isolated incident)
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Nope.
 
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I had to listen to one of the old women that worked in the electrical department at my old hardware store rant to every customer about how "Obama is forcing us to use these bulbs" and that "even one bulb is poisonous." Her TV, admittedly, never left Fox News. It was quite ridiculous and by the time I became a manager I had to sit her down and talk to about it because she was running customers out of the store.

I actually prefer these bulbs and can't wait for LED's to gain more momentum and drop in price. They also make CFL bulbs that can use dimmers, but the ballasts are larger than normal CFL bulbs and cost more, IIRC.
 
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The CFLs are advertised to last longer than incandescents but my experience is they last maybe a third as long. I bought a bunch when I bought my house in 07 thinking I was doing the right thing, but within a year they were all gone and replaced with good old fashioned bulbs.
 
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I just chucked them in the garbage along with the mercury switches from my thermostat and a bunch of 40 year old paint I found in the basement. Well, just the paint cans, I poured the paint down the toilet along with a couple of years worth of expired pain killers.
 
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VOLatile said:
I had to listen to one of the old women that worked in the electrical department at my old hardware store rant to every customer about how "Obama is forcing us to use these bulbs" and that "even one bulb is poisonous." Her TV, admittedly, never left Fox News. It was quite ridiculous and by the time I became a manager I had to sit her down and talk to about it because she was running customers out of the store.

I actually prefer these bulbs and can't wait for LED's to gain more momentum and drop in price. They also make CFL bulbs that can use dimmers, but the ballasts are larger than normal CFL bulbs and cost more, IIRC.
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The technology will improve and eventually consumers will select CFL's, so we don't need a law to change behavior. The law may actually delay improvement of the product (disincentive).
 
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YorkVol said:
The CFLs are advertised to last longer than incandescents but my experience is they last maybe a third as long. I bought a bunch when I bought my house in 07 thinking I was doing the right thing, but within a year they were all gone and replaced with good old fashioned bulbs.
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Their advertised lifespan is based off of something like 4 hours of use per day and they have to be standing upright. With that, though, I've yet to replace a CFL and I've even taken them with me when I've moved 4 times since I bought them. (I used specific ones that put off a white light instead of the nasty yellow light.)

nbakerld said:
The technology will improve and eventually consumers will select CFL's, so we don't need a law to change behavior. The law may actually delay improvement of the product (disincentive).
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I don't have an opinion on the law. In fact, I kind of tend to agree with you.
 
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First, aren't all the CFLs made in China?

Second, I hate the light that CFLs put off, it is too harsh.

Third, I do like the LEDs and have found a few in the 2700K color range that I've tried out, when they come down in price, that will be my light bulb of choice. The electricity savings on those are mind boggling.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
First, aren't all the CFLs made in China?

Second, I hate the light that CFLs put off, it is too harsh.

Third, I do like the LEDs and have found a few in the 2700K color range that I've tried out, when they come down in price, that will be my light bulb of choice. The electricity savings on those are mind boggling.
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The future is bright for LED's. CFL's were always the transitional bulb between incandescent and LED.
 
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Dang all this F'n technology!! What's wrong with candles? They've never done me wrong!
 
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Screw that.

The minute this bill went down I went out and bought (seriously not kidding) over a thousand of the non-mercury might kill you light bulbs.

got a storage shed lined with light bulbs. what a world we live in.
 
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NEOCON said:
Screw that.

The minute this bill went down I went out and bought (seriously not kidding) over a thousand of the non-mercury might kill you light bulbs.

got a storage shed lined with light bulbs. what a world we live in.
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I probably change something like 5 light bulbs a year. Maybe. What in the world will you do with 1000?
 
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dreVol said:
It's not just a possibility. They're dangerous enough that they require special procedures in order to properly dispose of them. For example, you can't just toss them in the trash when they go out like you can with incandecents. IIRC, you're supposed to put them next to your trash (when you take it out) in a glass jar that is taped close. Also, if a CFL breaks indoors you're supposed to open all the windows to properly ventilate your home/office and mitigate any mercury inhalation.
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Like people are actually going to do that.





volinbham said:
The mercury problem has been overstated.

That said, I still think it's ridiculous that these are banned.

The other fun fact is that there is no (or very little) US-based production of CFLs but there was US-based production of incandescents.
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The EPA has blocked production of CFLs in America.

Are they overstating the danger?




RespectTradition said:
Does anyone see the irony? In a democratic-republic, the people, who hold the franchise, are too stupid to know what lightbulbs to pick. You are smart enough to vote for your Senator, but you aren't smart enough to decide what lightbulbs to use.

Am I the only one who sees something wrong with that?

(and the lightbulbs are not an isolated incident)
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The mandated ethanol use is an excellent example of stupidity in action.




YorkVol said:
I just chucked them in the garbage along with the mercury switches from my thermostat and a bunch of 40 year old paint I found in the basement. Well, just the paint cans, I poured the paint down the toilet along with a couple of years worth of expired pain killers.
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The next time I go frog gigging and find a three eyed frog, I'm going to blame it on you.



bamacheats said:
Dang all this F'n technology!! What's wrong with candles? They've never done me wrong!
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I really liked life better before we had electricity, it was much more homey and cozy.

An added plus, you don't have all that idiotic crap streaming over the TV.

As for buying up all the old bulbs.

My friend that I watch nearly all the Vol football games with had a son who was working part time at Walmart while attending school and he said some little old lady came in and bought every incandescent bulb they had on the shelf as soon as the law was passed.
 
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gsvol said:
No, he was a stripper inspector.

That requires good lighting you know. :)
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I dunno.

I have known several strippers and I gotta tell ya: most of them were a heck of a lot sexier in dim lighting. Seeing 'em in the daylight was a disappointing experience.
 
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RespectTradition said:
Were you a boy scout?
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Hell no.

My best friend was an Eagle scout though and ended up in the military but I barely made it through Junior High before getting expelled.

I have never been good at respecting my elders etc and truly am even worse in person.

I think I collected so many light bulbs because I just didn't like being told I couldn't.

I guess I have severe daddy issues.

What can I say? I know I need help.
 
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