Interesting read on the Haslams

#7
#7
I only gas up at Pilot because of all the $$$ Jim has given.

I hope they screwed those trucking companies over! I hate truckers!
 
#8
#8
Regardless of what Jimmy did over the past few years, Big Jim is a VFL in every sense of the word.

And I can honestly sit and listen to stories about the General all day.
 
#9
#9
This quote is telling...

"Seven Pilot workers and execs have pleaded guilty as a result of the federal investigation. Last week, Jimmy held a brief news conference outlining the steps Pilot has taken to make things right for its customers, to repay the money with interest. Haslam did not answer any questions.

"There is no way that any Haslam that I know, no way that Mr. Haslam, Jimmy or Bill would ever be involved in anything they know to be unethical or illegal," Sen. Corker says. "The company has grown rapidly. There's been acquisitions, there's a lot that is happening, and let's face it, it's a powerhouse in the industry. Obviously, some things did occur in the company. But is there any way I would ever believe that Jimmy had any knowledge of this? Absolutely not. There's no possible way.""

Notice how Sen. Corker offers and excuse, offers justifications, admits some level of guilt but never says they aren't guilty? He can only say truthfully that he would "never believe" and that there is "no possible way". Sen. Corker doesn't want to lie about this, and he didn't, he just withheld the truth.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#11
#11
NEwhere said:
Notice how Sen. Corker offers and excuse, offers justifications, admits some level of guilt but never says they aren't guilty?
Click to expand...


Maybe because he doesn't know they're "not guilty," he just knows there is a gap between what he knows of the Halsams and what Jimmy Haslam is accused of doing. Perhaps he prefers this tactic to shooting off his mouth about a situation he doesn't fully understand, unlike some first-time posters on this message board.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#12
#12
NEwhere said:
This quote is telling...

"Seven Pilot workers and execs have pleaded guilty as a result of the federal investigation. Last week, Jimmy held a brief news conference outlining the steps Pilot has taken to make things right for its customers, to repay the money with interest. Haslam did not answer any questions.

"There is no way that any Haslam that I know, no way that Mr. Haslam, Jimmy or Bill would ever be involved in anything they know to be unethical or illegal," Sen. Corker says. "The company has grown rapidly. There's been acquisitions, there's a lot that is happening, and let's face it, it's a powerhouse in the industry. Obviously, some things did occur in the company. But is there any way I would ever believe that Jimmy had any knowledge of this? Absolutely not. There's no possible way.""

Notice how Sen. Corker offers and excuse, offers justifications, admits some level of guilt but never says they aren't guilty? He can only say truthfully that he would "never believe" and that there is "no possible way". Sen. Corker doesn't want to lie about this, and he didn't, he just withheld the truth.
Click to expand...

As is this part of the story:

"When it comes to business, Jimmy Haslam is hands-on and intense. He's a truck-stop savant. Mention a city, anywhere on the map, and he can rattle off where the Pilot Flying Js are. The Council Bluffs, Iowa, location? It has an Arby's and is near a casino, Haslam would say. He's traveled these roads for decades. Pilot and the Browns are his babies, and like any parent, he knows his children.

Every week, Haslam flies to a region, rents a car and drives around to various Pilot travel centers. He checks the books, the gas pumps and even the restrooms to make sure they're clean. He talks to the woman at the register. He loves interacting with his employees.

It raises an obvious question -- how can Haslam tell you if the paper towels are low at a truck stop in Tennessee, but he didn't know that some of his highest-level employees allegedly were shorting customers millions of dollars?"
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#13
#13
Nice read. I personally think this investigation is more about limited Bill's chances of running for President in 2016 against Hillary than anything else. They know that someone like Bill in the Presidency means opening up Federal Lands to more Shale drilling and hopefully cheaper gas for everyone. Can't have that when we can spend billions on wind, solar and bio-crap fuel subsidies.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#14
#14
Bms4880 said:
Maybe because he doesn't know they're "not guilty," he just knows there is a gap between what he knows of the Halsams and what Jimmy Haslam is accused of doing. Perhaps he prefers this tactic to shooting off his mouth about a situation he doesn't fully understand, unlike some first-time posters on this message board.
Click to expand...

Sure you can interpret it that way, and you are right i don't fully understand the situation. Of course i'm not friends with the Halsams publicly offering them support and suggesting that they are not guilty of anything.
 
#15
#15
tomq_123 said:
Nice read. I personally think this investigation is more about limited Bill's chances of running for President in 2016 against Hillary than anything else. They know that someone like Bill in the Presidency means opening up Federal Lands to more Shale drilling and hopefully cheaper gas for everyone. Can't have that when we can spend billions on wind, solar and bio-crap fuel subsidies.
Click to expand...

Yeah, because if there's one thing you know the gas companies have really been all about this century, it's been about providing cheaper gas to everyone.

I mean, it's not like anyone is making record profits while gas prices sky-rocket, right?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#16
#16
oregonvol said:
Yeah, because if there's one thing you know the gas companies have really been all about this century, it's been about providing cheaper gas to everyone.

I mean, it's not like anyone is making record profits while gas prices sky-rocket, right?
Click to expand...

oh good grief. This is why they were able to get away with it for so long
 
#17
#17
utvolpj said:
oh good grief. This is why they were able to get away with it for so long
Click to expand...

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying that oil and gas companies aren't making record profits? Are you saying that my post was an unreasonable response to a poster claiming that the investigation is a plot by Hillary Clinton supporters to discredit Bill Haslam?
 
#19
#19
oregonvol said:
I don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying that oil and gas companies aren't making record profits? Are you saying that my post was an unreasonable response to a poster claiming that the investigation is a plot by Hillary Clinton supporters to discredit Bill Haslam?
Click to expand...

I'm saying it appears you get confused when you see a large number and ignore everything else. More sales = more profit dollars. Check out the %
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#20
#20
utvolpj said:
I'm saying it appears you get confused when you see a large number and ignore everything else. More sales = more profit dollars. Check out the %
Click to expand...

So you're saying there is no connection between record gas prices at the pump and record profits for gas companies?
 
#21
#21
oregonvol said:
So you're saying there is no connection between record gas prices at the pump and record profits for gas companies?
Click to expand...

I just explained that. However before demonizing anyone you should take a look at other things besides just one number. Once you do compare that to other large companies and see where it stands. The results will probably surprise (and confuse) you
 
#22
#22
tomq_123 said:
Nice read. I personally think this investigation is more about limited Bill's chances of running for President in 2016 against Hillary than anything else. They know that someone like Bill in the Presidency means opening up Federal Lands to more Shale drilling and hopefully cheaper gas for everyone. Can't have that when we can spend billions on wind, solar and bio-crap fuel subsidies.
Click to expand...

Yes, people are pleading guilty so the gov't can take shots at the Haslams. You are delusional.

In other news, 29% of Louisiana Republicans think the handling of Katrina was Obama's fault. . . . No. I'm not kidding.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#23
#23
NashVOL93 said:
If the Haslams totally own the show in Knoxville, why is Jimbo Cheek still in office on the Hill?
Click to expand...

Maybe he likes Cheek.

tomq_123 said:
Nice read. I personally think this investigation is more about limited Bill's chances of running for President in 2016 against Hillary than anything else. They know that someone like Bill in the Presidency means opening up Federal Lands to more Shale drilling and hopefully cheaper gas for everyone. Can't have that when we can spend billions on wind, solar and bio-crap fuel subsidies.
Click to expand...

:eek:lol:
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#24
#24
oregonvol said:
So you're saying there is no connection between record gas prices at the pump and record profits for gas companies?
Click to expand...

Well, there are different types of gas companies. Pilot is in the retail business, at least to my knowledge. So what he is saying is that the profit percentage will remain mostly constant for the gas whether it is $1 a gallon or $2. They just mark up the gas they receive a little bit (whatever they set for profit margin on gas) and then resell it. You could argue that for Pilot it hurts their profits when gas goes up due to people not traveling as much and people not stopping at their travel centers to purchase food, drinks, gas, etc.

When it comes to the oil companies that actually pump the crude oil out of the ground, they obviously make more money by the price of their commodity increasing.
 
#25
#25
oregonvol said:
Yeah, because if there's one thing you know the gas companies have really been all about this century, it's been about providing cheaper gas to everyone.

I mean, it's not like anyone is making record profits while gas prices sky-rocket, right?
Click to expand...

Increased demand, sky rocketing costs in technology to improve drilling techniques to MEET that demand and the absolute raping of the U.S. Dollar, of which oil is denominated in the global market must = CONSPIRACY!!
I think I see what you're saying.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top