Is Bush Ineligible for the Rose Bowl?

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In response to a recent report in The Los Angeles Daily News that USC tailback Reggie Bush has already decided to turn pro -- and that he is being "advised" by Reebok representative Mike Ornstein -- some NFL insiders are questioning whether Bush technically has blown his eligibility for the Rose Bowl.

The problem isn't whether Bush already has decided to enter the NFL draft, but whether Ornstein already is acting as his "agent" for any reason relating to Bush's eventual professional career. Indeed, it was the decision to sign with an agent after the initial Maurice Clarett court ruling that eventually kept receiver Mike Williams from returning to USC. If, then, Bush already has done the same thing, Bush arguably should not be permitted to play against Texas in the Rose Bowl.

Of course, neither Bush nor Ornstein is stupid enough to reduce the terms of their relationship (whatever it might be) to writing. But based on the info we could glean from the NCAA's official web site (which is poorly organized and would desperately benefit from a complete overhaul), it looks like the NCAA looks to the total facts and circumstances in such situations, not just the question of whether someone has put pen to paper.

In this case, something stinks (in our opinion) about Ornstein's role in all of this. Sure, he's not an NFLPA-certified agent. But he represents multiple NFL guys in broadcasting and marketing contexts, and he is a paid rep for the company that makes all of the NFL's clothing.

The real question is whether the NCAA will do some poking around in response to this report -- and, if so, whether any conclusions will be reached before January 4.

And we suppose that, if the NCAA ultimately decides after the Rose Bowl that Bush blew his eligibility before it, there's a possibility that the Trojans, if they prevail in Pasadena, could be stripped of the win.
 
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doubt they wont let him play, I just cant see that happening, everyone loves reggie... well almost everyone....
 
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He can be advised by anyone as long as he doesn't pay them or sign any contracts.
 
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If it was true ESPN would have cut away from the current bowl game to talk about it.
 
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(Vol67 @ Dec 20 said:
He can be advised by anyone as long as he doesn't pay them or sign any contracts.

Well, kinda...

As I understand the rule, based mainly on what I know about the Randolf Morris case, the issue is not whether he has signed a contract but whether the has an agreement, written or verbal, for future professional representation. From the facts presented, it sounds suspiciously like he might.

 
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NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!

USC sent a fax into the NCAA and every thing is ok for Bush to play in the Rose Bowl.

:blush2:
 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Dec 21 said:
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!

USC sent a fax into the NCAA and every thing is ok for Bush to play in the Rose Bowl.

:blush2:


He he. I heard on ESPN radio the other day that Tubby found a few other things while going through his desk, like a signed letter of intent from JJ Redick from 2001 and a game plan on how to defend Dwyane Wade!

Sorry for the OT post, but I coldn't help it.
 
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He he. I heard on ESPN radio the other day that Tubby found a few other things while going through his desk, like a signed letter of intent from JJ Redick from 2001 and a game plan on how to defend Dwyane Wade!

:lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove: :mf_surrender:
 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Dec 21 said:
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!

USC sent a fax into the NCAA and every thing is ok for Bush to play in the Rose Bowl.

:blush2:

NO NO NO.....it's under a pile of papers on Pete Carroll's desk. He'll find it an hour before gametime.
 
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:dunno: This is the first I've heard about this. Even though it's his senior year, he could have said that he would be entering the NFL draft and as long as he doesn't have an agent or have any contracts signed with any team or agent, he should be able to play in the Rose Bowl.
 
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There is actually an article on EPSN.com that explains he has been interviewing agents and that he has been advised in the agent interviewing process, which apparently does not affect his eligibility. Without wishing anything bad on anyoneI wonder how he will feel if he has a career ending injury in the Rose Bowl? The signing bonus he will get will be so huge. I think if I was him I would not want to play the Bowl Game, even with a fat Lloyds insurance policy.
 
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(TennFan @ Dec 21 said:
:dunno: This is the first I've heard about this. Even though it's his senior year, he could have said that he would be entering the NFL draft and as long as he doesn't have an agent or have any contracts signed with any team or agent, he should be able to play in the Rose Bowl.

Actually, he is a Junior.
 

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