Is Hart making progress with getting the academic side to back off?

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Since that's a huge issue. No coach would want to come here under these circumstances! So someone please tell me this is fixed. I still don't understand how that affected anything but people say it has so what's the deal?
 
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Didn't he say in the presser that all things that offer a competitive disadvantage are gone? That would definitely fall in that category.
 
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Bizzness33 said:
Didn't he say in the presser that all things that offer a competitive disadvantage are gone? That would definitely fall in that category.
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I thought he said they were working on it. Could be why we don't have a coach yet. Just asking because it was so unclear.
 
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I keep reading on other threads that the issues aren't fixed. What is currently going on.
 
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I still say to close up that college thing. Too much of a distraction. Just keep the football team and the cheerleaders!
 
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Jax_Vol said:
I still say to close up that college thing. Too much of a distraction. Just keep the football team and the cheerleaders!
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What about the waterboy though? That guy needs his education.
 
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volberry said:
Since that's a huge issue. No coach would want to come here under these circumstances! So someone please tell me this is fixed. I still don't understand how that affected anything but people say it has so what's the deal?
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Yeah, what coach would want to come to a school where the jocks had to go to class and study? Let 'em play 3 years and either make the NFL or become drug dealers.
 
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The academic people need to hand the Thornton Center back over to the athletic dept. The academic requirements need to identical to your peers. Our peers are Bama Florida Carolina and the rest of the SEC elite (not Vandy). Although I havent been a student over there since the early 90's, I have heard from some 18-20 yr olds that were recently barred admission with an ACT of 23. That concerns me because I was admitted with an ACT of 24. Have we gotten so uppity and Harvardesque that we are headed toward insane admission requirements such as ACT scores of 29 and GPAs of 3.75 ? Hell nobody will be getting in then and it is totally ridiculous considering we are a land grant PUBLIC university not a private institution.
 
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SteveninTenn said:
The academic people need to hand the Thornton Center back over to the athletic dept. The academic requirements need to identical to your peers. Our peers are Bama Florida Carolina and the rest of the SEC elite (not Vandy). Although I havent been a student over there since the early 90's, I have heard from some 18-20 yr olds that were recently barred admission with an ACT of 23. That concerns me because I was admitted with an ACT of 24. Have we gotten so uppity and Harvardesque that we are headed toward insane admission requirements such as ACT scores of 29 and GPAs of 3.75 ? Hell nobody will be getting in then and it is totally ridiculous considering we are a land grant PUBLIC university not a private institution.
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The indignation in these threads at the thought that the University of Tennessee wants to focus more on strong academics is absolutely absurd. It is an academic institution. This aspect of the university must take priority over everything else.

Moreover, the tougher admissions standards at UT are a direct reflection of more qualified applicants. This ought to make anyone happy. UT, just like any other university, has a threshold for GPA and test scores: any applicant below that threshold will not even be considered; the applicants above that threshold compete for the available slots.

UT does not have the money to expand from 25,000 students to 50,000 overnight; thus, as more qualified applicants apply, less qualified applicants (who would have previously ended up at UT) will now end up at MTSU, ETSU, UTM, UTC, etc. The better the applicant pool, the more employable the graduate pool. The more employable the graduate pool, the better the quality of life for Tennessee kids who want to stay in Tennessee after graduation.

The derision of the academic progress at UT ought to stop. It is asinine.
 
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therealUT said:
The indignation in these threads at the thought that the University of Tennessee wants to focus more on strong academics is absolutely absurd. It is an academic institution. This aspect of the university must take priority over everything else.

Moreover, the tougher admissions standards at UT are a direct reflection of more qualified applicants. This ought to make anyone happy. UT, just like any other university, has a threshold for GPA and test scores: any applicant below that threshold will not even be considered; the applicants above that threshold compete for the available slots.

UT does not have the money to expand from 25,000 students to 50,000 overnight; thus, as more qualified applicants apply, less qualified applicants (who would have previously ended up at UT) will now end up at MTSU, ETSU, UTM, UTC, etc. The better the applicant pool, the more employable the graduate pool. The more employable the graduate pool, the better the quality of life for Tennessee kids who want to stay in Tennessee after graduation.

The derision of the academic progress at UT ought to stop. It is asinine.
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you are so wrong.
 
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SteveninTenn said:
The academic people need to hand the Thornton Center back over to the athletic dept. The academic requirements need to identical to your peers. Our peers are Bama Florida Carolina and the rest of the SEC elite (not Vandy). Although I havent been a student over there since the early 90's, I have heard from some 18-20 yr olds that were recently barred admission with an ACT of 23. That concerns me because I was admitted with an ACT of 24. Have we gotten so uppity and Harvardesque that we are headed toward insane admission requirements such as ACT scores of 29 and GPAs of 3.75 ? Hell nobody will be getting in then and it is totally ridiculous considering we are a land grant PUBLIC university not a private institution.
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The non-admits with an ACT of 23 were not football players - the rules are absolutely different for them, and no more stringent that other SEC schools (despite what you think you heard Doug Mathews say a couple of weeks ago). The kids that are being turned down are those who don't play sports, but who are true Tennesseans whose parents have been paying taxes in Tennessee for decades. Kinda sad when it comes right down to it.
 
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