Is torture unconstitutional?

Is torture unconstitutional?

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#2
#2
The poll is flawed. Torture can be defined in a number of ways!
 
#5
#5
Could torture be considered a "cruel and unusual punishment"?
 
#6
#6
For that matter, do the protections of the Constitution extend to non-Americans?
 
#7
#7
I think it involves a situation....Army purposes it is ok, if its hostage, anything putting another person in any harm it should be ok. But doing it for useless information, and like stuff in guantanamo, and all that is pathetic, and should be looked down upon. But Unconstitutional idk about??
 
#9
#9
It's not unconstitutional with regards to enemy combatants. It's generally against the Geneva Convention.

Torture against American citizens has been deemed to fall under the category of cruel and unusual punishment, making it unconstitutional.
 
#10
#10
The 8th amendment says "no cruel and unusual punishment", but should these apply to non-american citizen terrorist. If I were to be captured, thrown in jail, made to wear womens unerwear on my head, and the jailer threw a bible down on the floor and urinated all over it, would I be enraged by this? Probably not, I was probably involved in some of this in college. But the media was appalled when found that a muslim imprisoned by the military did this changing the bible for the koran, this was considered "cruel and unusual". I personally believe that all methods should be used in a narrow scope, when numerous American lives are at risk. But would that be constitutional, I don't know. Would I be p.....off, if my family were killed by a terrorist act, and said terrorist was sitting in a cell with his ACLU appointed attorney, and praying to the west, your damn right I would be. By the way, would any one like to fancy a guess how many times waterboarding has been used in the past 4 or 5 yrs? What congress and the media has been so engulfed about.
 
#11
#11
I agree Ice and I think the answer to the waterboarding is around 3 times.. very high ranking AQ personnel.
 
#12
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tim said:
I agree Ice and I think the answer to the waterboarding is around 3 times.. very high ranking AQ personnel.
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You are correct good sir, and of those 3, one was involved in the Daniel Pearl kidnapping and beheading, and the other the 9/11 mastermind.
 
#13
#13
BTW.. Without the threat of some type of compliance/truth obtaining method the US will be out of the intelligence business. We will have to hire out our interviewers.. Like a rendition to say Pakistan or other country who knows how to get to the truth.. Having said this I don't want our troops put into harms way if they are captured, however I know they are..
 
#14
#14
I think I'd rather be waterboarded than have my head cut off while a bunch of masked psychopaths babbled about the greatness of allah.
 
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MG1968 said:
I think I'd rather be waterboarded than have my head cut off while a bunch of masked psychopaths babbled about the greatness of allah.
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Exactly.. Let's ask an attorney... On second thought lets not.

The way congress went after the CIA on this waterboarding issue you would have thought that we were beheading these Godless bastards of the Middle East.
 
#16
#16
If torture is used as intelligence mining as opposed to being used as punishment then certainly the terms "cruel and unusual punishment" need not apply. In that case, is there any Constitutional basis against the use of torture?
 
#17
#17
why are we the only country that tells everyone what we are going to do, have done, or want to do? Why can't we keep techniques a secret..
 
#19
#19
therealUT said:
If torture is used as intelligence mining as opposed to being used as punishment then certainly the terms "cruel and unusual punishment" need not apply. In that case, is there any Constitutional basis against the use of torture?
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Is there any constitutional prohibition regarding flying jet airliners into high rise buildings in New York City?
 
#20
#20
read an article from the Chicago Tribune, and waterboarding has only been 3 times


with all the pub, and inquiries into it's use, I thought it was being used daily
 
#21
#21
vol_in_ar said:
read an article from the Chicago Tribune, and waterboarding has only been 3 times


with all the pub, and inquiries into it's use, I thought it was being used daily
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I wouldn't care if it was if it means keeping yours and mine safe. Last time I looked the sandy bastards need showers anyway.
 
#25
#25
Hey, if we were waterboarding your average US criminal, then I'd have an issue with it. As it is, we're talking about waterboarding non-US-citizen terrorists who have, or are suspected of having, killed thousands of Americans. We let them off way too lightly, in my opinion. They cut off limbs, for crying out loud. Barbarians. In the famous words of Kansas, "Fight fire with fire . . . . "
 
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