Israel vs Palestinians

[volbound1700]

At the time yes. The gaza arabs were viewed as Egyptian constituents the same way Germans whom weren't displaced were viewed as Polish, Czech, and East German constituents.

Eradication, no. The USSR did to an extent with German expulsions, though. That displacement includes millions of ethnic Germans who lived in Poland, Czechoslovakia and East Germany pre ww2.

The comparison breaks down pretty rapidly though. The Germans surrendered unconditionally, capitulated to the Marshall plan in the West, and submitted under Soviet yoke in the East.

Germany lost 3 historical regions that saw displacement:

Prussia, Silesia, and Pomerania (half of it is in East German but the half in West Germany). Just found this map to support my claim. Sadly, Poland lost a lot of historic lands to Ukraine and Belarus as well though. In a way, the 1933-1941 borders were actually stronger borders than today if you go off history.

 

[MemphisVol77]

Germany lost 3 historical regions that saw displacement:

Prussia, Silesia, and Pomerania (half of it is in East German but the half in West Germany). Just found this map to support my claim. Sadly, Poland lost a lot of historic lands to Ukraine and Belarus as well though. In a way, the 1933-1941 borders were actually stronger borders than today if you go off history.

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I've always had a casual interest in world history, but nothing like the depths you've displayed in the PF. I'm never quite sure what to think of the modern Polish state. Was there much European swell for recreating a Polish state before Woodrow Wilson's 14-points?

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Does the course explain why every Arab country in the region refuses to accept Palestinian immigrants?

Love the host of the video in my post absolutely owning the ignorant terrorists with questions like yours. Especially the one when he demonstrates a better knowledge of the quran than theirs. Blinding hate is both evil and stupid...those people are filled with hatred and its rotting them from the inside. Israel needs to finish what they started and liberate all of Gaza.

 

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[85SugarVol]

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I see the Democrats hemorrhaging more of the Jewish vote.

 

[EasternVol]

Maybe the NAZIS should have been shut down early too.
Glad we learnt sumthin from history

Who's acting like Nazis in all this? Would it be the ones trying to silence dissenting voices?

 

[EasternVol]

Does the course explain why every Arab country in the region refuses to accept Palestinian immigrants?

Why should Palestinians emigrate to other countries when they have their homeland?

 

[McDad]

Why should Palestinians emigrate to other countries when they have their homeland?

For longevity. They are out gunned, out manned, out financed, and out teched.

 

[EasternVol]

For longevity. They are out gunned, out manned, out financed, and out teched.

So them with the most and best weapons get to take what they want, got it.

 

[McDad]

So them with the most and best weapons get to take what they want, got it.

That's been the brutal reality since Cain picked up a rock.

 

[volfanhill]

So them with the most and best weapons get to take what they want, got it.

Well that's how it's worked for the entirety of human existence. Kind of why you live where you live.

 

[85SugarVol]

So them with the most and best weapons get to take what they want, got it.

Take “back” in this scenario, but yea. It’s kinda the way it’s always been.

 

[EasternVol]

That's been the brutal reality since Cain picked up a rock.

So when it's our buds, or our overlords' buds, applying the brutal reality it's just the way the world works and is really a shame. When our buds are getting said brutal reality done to them though it's naked and unacceptable aggression which must be defeated. Noted.

 

[volfanhill]

So when it's our buds, or our overlords' buds, applying the brutal reality it's just the way the world works and is really a shame. When our buds are getting said brutal reality done to them though it's naked and unacceptable aggression which must be defeated. Noted.

So how the world has always worked again. Where is the confusion?

 

[EasternVol]

Well that's how it's worked for the entirety of human existence. Kind of why you live where you live.

Not the entirety. Remember those rules we and our allies made post WWII too.

 

[volfanhill]

Not the entirety. Remember those rules we and our allies made post WWII too.

Oh we followed those? We did not.

 

[EasternVol]

Take “back” in this scenario, but yea. It’s kinda the way it’s always been.

That 'back' part is a real stretch.

 

[EasternVol]

Oh we followed those? We did not.

We followed them when they were convenient.

 

[volfanhill]

We followed them when they were convenient.

So you agree. We did not. But want Israel to do so. Which is fine if you do. But no one does. They are at war. Their opponent isn't playing by the "rules." Don't care if they don't. Best if they win with finality. This war/stopage crap will only extend and lead to more deaths over time. Israel should end it now.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Not the entirety. Remember those rules we and our allies made post WWII too.

Might want to do a little research into weapons and tactics.

 

[kiddiedoc]

So them with the most and best weapons get to take what they want, got it.

If you haven't, read up on the history of the M1 Garand, "the greatest battle implement ever devised." Then, save up and get your hands on a nice one and shoot it. It makes you a better American.

 

[EasternVol]

So you agree. We did not. But want Israel to do so. Which is fine if you do. But no one does. They are at war. Their opponent isn't playing by the "rules." Don't care if they don't. Best if they win with finality. This war/stopage crap will only extend and lead to more deaths over time. Israel should end it now.

Taking dissent as agreement isn't the way to a correct answer.
We did. See Kuwait and Iraq, Bosnia and Serbia.
Israel should back off the occupied territories, Palestinians should cease their aggression, and both sides should genuinely work on a fair long term soluton.

 

[EasternVol]

Might want to do a little research into weapons and tactics.

Non sequitur

 

[85SugarVol]

That 'back' part is a real stretch.

It’s fairly key in this scenario. But yes, yes… I realize White Jews don’t count.