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OrangeEmpire

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1. Finally, a playoff proposal I like: Dr. Jeff Kirchner at the University of North Carolina suggests a 32-team World Cup-style event. Take eight four-team groups in which everyone plays one another. Two teams from each group advance to single-elimination play. I think eight teams and two four-team groups would be fine. Play three games in group play and advance four teams to a Final Four. Five Saturdays and you're done. Who's with me?
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What do you think?
 
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i've gone back and forth on this play off/no play off....and what i've come to find out about myself is that i really enjoy the regular season...as it stands right now, college football has the most riveting regular season in all of sports, professional or college. there is no positioning for play off spots. it's win or go home each week, at least for the true contenders.

plus one of the best things about college football is the debate. and the other thing about the system we have now, which i have just come to like of late, is we are getting match ups that we would never have gotten w/out the BCS. TX would have never played USC, OK would never have played USC, Miami would never have played OSU, LSU would never have played OK w/out this system. flawed as it is, what we have now is better than the old bowl/conference alliance that put No. 1 in the voters hands. at least now, the two supposed best teams are put together and they play. is it perfect? hell no. any system that puts a 3rd place Neb. team in it's own conf. in the NT game is flawed. but, at the end of the day, i've come to like the bantering, and i don't want anything that devalues the regular season.

 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 20 said:
I would like to see every conference have a championship game.
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same here....but the pac 10 and big 10 aren't going to do it, especially now that the Pac 10 has a true round robin schedule.

Personally, i wish they'd get rid of the championship games....it's nothing more than a money windfall for hte conf., and can be a penalty game for one of the teams in the game....take us in 01, Va Tech last year in the ACC, and whomever lost the Big 12 title game the year that Neb went to the NT game against Miami....
 
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Well, as some of you may know, the NCAA requires a conference to have at least 12 teams to have divisional play and a conference game. I think the Pac-10's round robin will work every bit as well as divisional play. It may not force a conference champion, but the plus side is that every team will play every other team.
 
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(milohimself @ Jun 20 said:
Well, as some of you may know, the NCAA requires a conference to have at least 12 teams to have divisional play and a conference game. I think the Pac-10's round robin will work every bit as well as divisional play. It may not force a conference champion, but the plus side is that every team will play every other team.
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well the only redeeming factor there is that they will all play each other, unlike the Big 10.

but, i still think that every conference should be held to the same standard when it determines their champion.
 
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Playoffs will not be happening anytime soon, if ever. I wouldn't waste too much time trying to come up with a reasonable system, because there is too much money tied in with the current setup. I agree though, it would be more fair if all the major conferences had a championship game.
 
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(jakez4ut @ Jun 20 said:
i've gone back and forth on this play off/no play off....and what i've come to find out about myself is that i really enjoy the regular season...as it stands right now, college football has the most riveting regular season in all of sports, professional or college. there is no positioning for play off spots. it's win or go home each week, at least for the true contenders.

plus one of the best things about college football is the debate. and the other thing about the system we have now, which i have just come to like of late, is we are getting match ups that we would never have gotten w/out the BCS. TX would have never played USC, OK would never have played USC, Miami would never have played OSU, LSU would never have played OK w/out this system. flawed as it is, what we have now is better than the old bowl/conference alliance that put No. 1 in the voters hands. at least now, the two supposed best teams are put together and they play. is it perfect? hell no. any system that puts a 3rd place Neb. team in it's own conf. in the NT game is flawed. but, at the end of the day, i've come to like the bantering, and i don't want anything that devalues the regular season.
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I truly believe that there can exist a playoff AND not devalue the regular season at the same time. Look at last season.... if there was an 8-team playoff.... Va Tech's loss to Florida State knocks them out.... the LSU-Georgia game would have been to see which team got in....

*Automatic Bids
Big XII Texas 12-0
Pac-10 Southern Cal 12-0
SEC Georgia 10-2
ACC Florida State 8-4
Big 10 Penn State 10-1
Big East West Virginia 10-1

**At-large
Ohio State 9-2
Oregon 10-1
Notre Dame 9-2

***Teams left out
Miami 9-2 (upset by Ga Tech)
Auburn 9-2 (also lost to Ga Tech)
Va Tech 10-2 (lost to Fla State in ACCCG)
LSU 10-2 (lost to UGA in SECCG)
Alabama 9-2 (lost final 2 games to LSU and Auburn)
TCU 10-1 (lost to SMU!)
Texas Tech 9-2 (lost to Okla. State)
UCLA 9-2 (got blown out against Arizona)
Louisville (lost to South Florida)

*Not only with a playoff format not devaluing the games.... I believe it puts more empasis on certain regular season games, especially the conferance champtionship games. Florida State and Georgia got in because of their on-field performances... not some voter or computer program.
**Highest rated non-conference championship teams
***All the teams "left out" were at one point of the season being seriously discussed as BCS teams. Just ask them if the regular season games were meaningless after not getting into this virtual playoff. :blink:




 
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yeah, i posted something similar last year.....but it included all conf. champions....but anyway...how would you seed them and play it???
 
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Any 8 Team playoff system will be just as frustrating as the current system. How would you decide what teams to put it in it? How would UT have felt a few years ago when we had beaten UGA, but they were still ranked higher than us, with the same record? In my opinion, an 8 team playoff would create even more controversy than the BCS. In the system proposed above, Notre Dame would get a playoff spot, but not Auburn? They had the same record and Auburn's schedule was much harder. The same could be said of LSU, Bama, Miami, and VT. Two years ago we heard Auburn complain about not getting the chance to play for the championship. With the format described above, you'd hear a lot more teams griping.
 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 20 said:
I would like to see every conference have a championship game.
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i would like to see every conference without one rather than every conference with one.


and the world cup idea i dont like it. that is 7 more games a season for a few of the teams.


i think an 8 team knockout stage would be fine.
 
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(NCGatorBait @ Jun 24 said:
I dont see why Div 1 cant just have a playoff like the 1AA teams have.
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Exactly! At least try it for a couple seasons. Money is behind everything and it's certainly behind why we don't have a playoff and probably why we won't ever have a playoff. Yes, it may make a single reagular season game mean just a little less but it also allows teams that chance if they have a slight slip-up. Back in the days of Spurrier and Florida and how they beat us every year, it took us the full season to get rolling. That's when I would have loved a playoff system. Losing one game hurts too much with our current set up.
 
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(Z06Vol @ Jun 26 said:
Exactly! At least try it for a couple seasons. Money is behind everything and it's certainly behind why we don't have a playoff and probably why we won't ever have a playoff. Yes, it may make a single reagular season game mean just a little less but it also allows teams that chance if they have a slight slip-up. Back in the days of Spurrier and Florida and how they beat us every year, it took us the full season to get rolling. That's when I would have loved a playoff system. Losing one game hurts too much with our current set up.
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Losing one game could still hurt. It'd probably be like an 8 or 10 team playoff. Still not much room to slip.
 
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