Jadaveon Clowney

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The most important part of this story is that five million is apparently the maximum that the NCAA allows. That's only about a quarter of what he stands to lose if he gets hurt. The NCAA is perfectly willing to accept his free labor, but they're making him assume ~$15 million worth of risk all by himself. Disgusting.
 
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Verc, or anyone, what does the NCAA gain by putting a cap of 5 million on it?
 
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This guy is a beast, may go down as one of the best defensive players in CFB history. Has a levity chance to win the Heisman
 
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DocVOLiday said:
Lol, what?
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Saying every college kid deserves an insurance policy. Of course this kid is worth 100x more $$ than the everyday college kid, and he could possibly be denied a chance to ever pursue his desired profession just because he is forced to stay another year...can you say that for every college kid?


if you were being serious i apologize and no you cannot apply for an insurance policy.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
The most important part of this story is that five million is apparently the maximum that the NCAA allows. That's only about a quarter of what he stands to lose if he gets hurt. The NCAA is perfectly willing to accept his free labor, but they're making him assume ~$15 million worth of risk all by himself. Disgusting.
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explain to me how the ncaa, the sec, south carolina, steve spurrier, clowney's mama, or anyone else is making him do a damn thing
 
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005 said:
Verc, or anyone, what does the NCAA gain by putting a cap of 5 million on it?
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The NCAA is subsidizing a portion of the cost of the insurance so it is cheaper for the athlete. Not sure why they cap at 5 Million as opposed to just capping the amount they are willing to subsidize. My understanding is Clowney can get private insurance over and above the 5 million but it will be more costly for him.
 
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99gator said:
explain to me how the ncaa, the sec, south carolina, steve spurrier, clowney's mama, or anyone else is making him do a damn thing
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There making him stay in college when he could be making millions of dollars in the NFL right now. Hell he could have been a 1st round draft pick after his freshman year.
 
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RockyTop22 said:
There making him stay in college when he could be making millions of dollars in the NFL right now. Hell he could have been a 1st round draft pick after his freshman year.
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no, that's not true.

the nfl and the nflpa have a collective bargaining agreement.

the ncaa has nothing to do with that. and please, don't try to make an argument that the nfl and nflpa take their marching orders from the ncaa
 
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99gator said:
no, that's not true.

the nfl and the nflpa have a collective bargaining agreement.

the ncaa has nothing to do with that. and please, don't try to make an argument that the nfl and nflpa take their marching orders from the ncaa
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They might not take orders but they sure as hell consult each other in these decisions. This benifits the NFL (more mature players) and the NCAA (players have to stay longer), but not the players at all....
 
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RockyTop22 said:
They might not take orders but they sure as hell consult each other in these decisions. This benifits the NFL (more mature players) and the NCAA (players have to stay longer), but not the players at all....
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it doesn't make a bit of difference to the ncaa.

how many d-1 players are there? how many could seriously leave after a year or two?

basketball had players leave straight out of high school and the ncaa did just fine.
 
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99gator said:
it doesn't make a bit of difference to the ncaa.

how many d-1 players are there? how many could seriously leave after a year or two?

basketball had players leave straight out of high school and the ncaa did just fine.
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I bet a lot more players would leave after 2 years than you think. They might not be ready, but neither are half of the basketball players than leave early, and there are a lot more rounds in the NFL draft.
 
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RockyTop22 said:
I bet a lot more players would leave after 2 years than you think. They might not be ready, but neither are half of the basketball players than leave early, and there are a lot more rounds in the NFL draft.
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i don't think as many would leave as you think.

there are 8500+ d-1 football players.

most don't start until after their 2nd year at a program.

the evaluation process would be a nightmare and a football team would be a lot more cautious drafting a 19 year old than a basketball team.

even with current rules, how many juniors or redshirt sophomores leave early?

i think you underestimate how much of an exception certain individuals are
 
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just looked it up.

a total of 65 underclassmen declared for the 2012 nfl draft and that was a record
 
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99gator said:
just looked it up.

a total of 65 underclassmen declared for the 2012 nfl draft and that was a record
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All im saying is a lot of these kids are going to college thinking they are going to be in the NFL. Now i understand most of them wont be, but that is their mindset, and IMO, if they think they are ready and want to pursue a career in their field than I think they should be allowed to do so. They might not get drafted, but they should have the option to do what they want to do. I also understand its nothing like basketball, since an 18 year old can dominate the NBA (LBJ) unlike any 18 year old can dominate even NCAAF, but i just do not think it is fair to force kids to go to college.
 
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RockyTop22 said:
All im saying is a lot of these kids are going to college thinking they are going to be in the NFL. Now i understand most of them wont be, but that is their mindset, and IMO, if they think they are ready and want to pursue a career in their field than I think they should be allowed to do so. They might not get drafted, but they should have the option to do what they want to do. I also understand its nothing like basketball, since an 18 year old can dominate the NBA (LBJ) unlike any 18 year old can dominate even NCAAF, but i just do not think it is fair to force kids to go to college.
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and what i am telling you is that the ability to do so is not being denied by the ncaa.

take it up with the nfl and nflpa. again, this is collectively bargained.

i don't know what the situation is with the arena league or the canadian football league.

if people don't want to go to college, maybe they can pursue that route.

i am just tired of the argument that the ncaa screws kids and denies them the ability to do x, y, and z. as if the ncaa forces anyone to do anything.

now, if you want to talk about the ncaa making money off of the players in video games or other situations, that's a different story.

but, forcing them to go to school. forcing them to stay in school, etc, etc, etc......that's a bunch of bull
 
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