Jimmie Johnson should be the pts. leader by a country mile

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Tenn_Vol_Authority

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All he's done this year is win races... :rock:

They don't reward winning like they should in NASCAR. Might as well call it Commie Car racin'... give all the other drivers a chance to feel good about themselves and don't reward the drivers that achieve.

Won 3 of the last 4, 4 top 5 finishes.

Jeff Burton and the Rainbow Warrior don't even have any wins and they are ahead of him.

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If the Chase were to start today, he would be leading the points. So, winning is rewarded later in the year when it counts. Nice try.
 
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Jeff Gordon has had overall better finishes than Jimmie. Jimmie has had one race where I think he wasn't in the top 15 or 20 and both Gordon and Burton have. In the next 3-4 races Jimmie may pass Burton.
It could be a one team race(Jeff/Jimmie)as we near the end of the regular season before the CHASE!
 
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tidwell said:
If the Chase were to start today, he would be leading the points. So, winning is rewarded later in the year when it counts. Nice try.
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I don't like that answer. He has 2 more wins than anybody else and he's in 3rd place.

terrible... and are you telling me that finishing in the top 10 one more time than Jimmie Johnson is a greater accomplishment than leading the last lap of the race 3 times more than Gordon or Burton? That is essentially what you are saying.

Top 10 finishes >> wins... just pathetic logic

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No, what we're saying is whoever has the most wins after race #26 assumes the point lead. Points position right now is meaningless for guys like JJ who will rack up the wins.

I realize you don't like that answer. You didn't like it two weeks ago when JJ won his second race, and I assume you won't like it after he wins his fourth race.
 
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tidwell said:
No, what we're saying is whoever has the most wins after race #26 assumes the point lead. Points position right now is meaningless for guys like JJ who will rack up the wins.

I realize you don't like that answer. You didn't like it two weeks ago when JJ won his second race, and I assume you won't like it after he wins his fourth race.
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He got robbed in 2004 because of this very reason... Most wins (8), most top 5's (20) and most top 10's (25) and still finished 8 points behind Kurt Busch.

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Pathetic... They don't reward winning in NASCAR like they should...
 
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doozer said:
you have no idea what you are talking about.
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The facts speak for themselves... winning is not rewarded in NASCAR. If it was, then 2004 wouldn't have happened.

Please explain to me how somebody that has more wins, top 5s and top 10 loses by 8 points?

What, did Jimmie not collect enough lap leader points?

The leading the last lap should count more than some guy leading laps 86-115...
 
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i have to agree, winning 50% of this years races and being in 3rd is just wrong
 
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what does something that happened 3 years ago have to do with anything?

if Babe Ruth had the technology we have now back in 1920 something, he'd be so far ahead in homeruns you'd need binoculars to even see him. what's your point?

now, somebody find a link that describes how the points work this year as opposed to last year, since the perfect definition that tidwell gave isn't working.

and by your theory, Kasey Kahne (sh)would have won it all last year.

trust me, i've been saying forever that NASCAR needs to reward WINNING. this is the first year that they have actually taken steps toward that.
 
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doozer said:
now, somebody find a link that describes how the points work this year as opposed to last year, since the perfect definition that tidwell gave isn't working.

and by your theory, Kasey Kahne (sh)would have won it all last year.
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All tidwell said is that Jimmie will be rewarded at the end of the year, but my question is how in the heck can sombody win 3 races up to this point in the season and be trailing 2 people that haven't even won a race.

And as far as last year is concerned, Kahne may have had more wins, but you guys (along with NASCAR) seem to value top 10 and top 5 finishes so much. Well, Jimmie beat him in top 5s/10s...

Seems to me that drivers that just sit back and play for position/points ain't racing, there just playing it safe. Why should you reward somebody like that?
 
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And another thing about last year, didn't Jimmie Johnson have some Nextel points taken away from him after Daytona?

He still overcame the haters and got the title (which he should have won in 2004)...
 
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He's not being rewarded at the end of the season, he's being rewarded with 10 races to go. He's pretty much got first place in points for race #27 locked up if he can manage to stay in the top 12 before then.

I said it in your last thread about this, but had he not ran out of talent at Daytona, you wouldn't be asking this question. Unfortunately for you, points are rewarded for every position. More points the better you finish. Quite a novel concept, I know.
 
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tidwell said:
He's not being rewarded at the end of the season, he's being rewarded with 10 races to go. He's pretty much got first place in points for race #27 locked up if he can manage to stay in the top 12 before then.

I said it in your last thread about this, but had he not ran out of talent at Daytona, you wouldn't be asking this question. Unfortunately for you, points are rewarded for every position. More points the better you finish. Quite a novel concept, I know.
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I realize points are rewarded for each position, but fininshing at #1 should count for more than it does...
 
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tidwell said:
He's not being rewarded at the end of the season, he's being rewarded with 10 races to go.
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Samething... end of the "regular" season... start of the chase... last ten races. I knew what you were saying... still don't like the set up for the chase, though.
 
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"The Chase" is probably the worst, most ignorant creation in the history of NASCAR.

But as it stands, points position right now is irrelevant unless you're 13th or 36th, neither of which Johnson will be experiencing anytime soon. I also doubt anyone with a substantial amount of wins will be languishing around 12th or 13th in the points after 26 races.
 
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it is what it is. doesn't mean you have to like it, but if it's that big of an issue, hit NASCAR where it hurts. don't watch.
 
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tidwell said:
"The Chase" is probably the worst, most ignorant creation in the history of NASCAR.

But as it stands, points position right now is irrelevant unless you're 13th or 36th, neither of which Johnson will be experiencing anytime soon. I also doubt anyone with a substantial amount of wins will be languishing around 12th or 13th in the points after 26 races.
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I am not a big fan of it either Tid.
 
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
And another thing about last year, didn't Jimmie Johnson have some Nextel points taken away from him after Daytona?

He still overcame the haters and got the title (which he should have won in 2004)...
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Actually he didn't. He lost some money, and he lost Knauss for a few races, but he didn't lose any points.
 
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The topic of this should be JJ should be kicked out of nascar for being so damn gay with his b/f Jeffy poo and his dominatrix Ricky Hendrick. :finger3:
 
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