JJ Holloman booted from UGA

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Jaws said:
I’m not convinced. Florida poised to take back over the East.

Mullen is on an absolute tear in recruiting over last few days. Just picked up two more commits today. 16 kids in the class now and new rankings should be about 7th.
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Commit yesterday was the #1813 player in the nation, barely a 3 star, he isn’t beating anyone but Vandy with that type of recruiting, 4 guys 85 or below and over half the class 3 stars. If you break down Mullen’s career coaching, he has done great against teams he is more talented than, and the very opposite of teams of equal talent or less talent.
 
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Jaws said:
They’ll be fine against average to below average secondaries. Teams with elite DB’s; Florida, Texas AM, Auburn, possibly Tennessee, will lock them down!
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That’s a possibility. If UGA went to the playoffs with Javon Wims as a number 1 receiver, I think they’ll be fine with Pickens or blaylock as a number 1 receiver. Freshman generally contribute early at receiver and runningback. Just look at tee Higgins, justyn Ross, Calvin Ridley, etc. Elite recruiting makes these losses a bit easier to handle. UGA would be in a much worse position if they lost Fromm, Swift, or any DL.
 
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secking said:
Commit yesterday was the #1813 player in the nation, barely a 3 star, he isn’t beating anyone but Vandy with that type of recruiting, 4 guys 85 or below and over half the class 3 stars. If you break down Mullen’s career coaching, he has done great against teams he is more talented than, and the very opposite of teams of equal talent or less talent.
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That 3-star kid you’re dismissing has ran multiple sub 4.4 forties at various UF camps. Watch his rankings climb now. And the other commit, Wingo, is a 4-star.

And I was wrong, UF is now 6th in the Rivals rankings... and climbing.
 
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Jaws said:
That 3-star kid you’re dismissing has ran multiple sub 4.4 forties at various UF camps. Watch his rankings climb now. And the other commit, Wingo, is a 4-star.

And I was wrong, UF is now 6th in the Rivals rankings... and climbing.
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I’ll agree that his ranking will rise, he committed to a SEC school, SEC bump is real. I normally look at the offers and they pretty much match his ranking now. UF has got commits the last two months but 5 of those 6 are rated below a 90 4 star and 4 of those 6 are ranked 85 or below. Agree on Wingo tho, looks like a good player and I think Dexter is actually underrated, very good player. Do you think Manuel sticks? Most don’t seem to think so?
I just think this cycle and last are perfect opportunities for UF to take advantage of state of Florida recruiting with Miami and FSU in total rebuild. UF should be raking up this year. UF will finish top 15 but could be much higher.
 
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secking said:
I’ll agree that his ranking will rise, he committed to a SEC school, SEC bump is real. I normally look at the offers and they pretty much match his ranking now. UF has got commits the last two months but 5 of those 6 are rated below a 90 4 star and 4 of those 6 are ranked 85 or below. Agree on Wingo tho, looks like a good player and I think Dexter is actually underrated, very good player. Do you think Manuel sticks? Most don’t seem to think so?
I just think this cycle and last are perfect opportunities for UF to take advantage of state of Florida recruiting with Miami and FSU in total rebuild. UF should be raking up this year. UF will finish top 15 but could be much higher.
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Fair assessment. Regarding Manuel, it helps UF that he’s local (Ocala) and UF will have a huge need at WR next year as they will lose a ton. But you just never know.
 
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secking said:
I’ll agree that his ranking will rise, he committed to a SEC school, SEC bump is real. I normally look at the offers and they pretty much match his ranking now. UF has got commits the last two months but 5 of those 6 are rated below a 90 4 star and 4 of those 6 are ranked 85 or below. Agree on Wingo tho, looks like a good player and I think Dexter is actually underrated, very good player. Do you think Manuel sticks? Most don’t seem to think so?
I just think this cycle and last are perfect opportunities for UF to take advantage of state of Florida recruiting with Miami and FSU in total rebuild. UF should be raking up this year. UF will finish top 15 but could be much higher.
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I think Manuel will head to JUCO.
 
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So without having any bias towards UGA and everyone wanting them to be taken down a peg other than Dawg fans , if this was your team how big of a blow is this for UGA ? Does this change much or just expedite younger guys involvement?
I’m leaning towards the idea that this will effect them more in weeks 1-6 than 6-postseason. So if you’re gonna get UGA, you better get them early .

Sucks we get them after a bye week.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
So without having any bias towards UGA and everyone wanting them to be taken down a peg other than Dawg fans , if this was your team how big of a blow is this for UGA ? Does this change much or just expedite younger guys involvement?
I’m leaning towards the idea that this will effect them more in weeks 1-6 than 6-postseason. So if you’re gonna get UGA, you better get them early .

Sucks we get them after a bye week.
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I think the loss of Holloman, a proven SEC WR, in combination with a new OC, is a problem. They literally have no WR’s returning with any production at all. They’ll be okay against teams with average DB’s, but against teams with elite DB’s, they will struggle. If we’re being fair though, we have to recognize that they have 5 mammoths on the o-line and a very good RB in Swift and a very good QB. So they may just maul people with their run game and let Fromm pick his spots with a simple but effective passing game. But this is where I think the loss of Chaney as OC hurts them. Is the new OC shrewd enough to coordinate this? The other spot nobody talks about is backup QB. If Fromm turns an ankle, they are done. They would become almost purely a running team and even though they have great personnel for a run game, if SEC defenses do not fear a passing game, they will shut you down as a one-dimensional run team.

They’ve got issues.
 
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Gatornator said:
I think Manuel will head to JUCO.
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You guys know more about his recruitment than me, but I’ve read he was suspended from campus? Hard to pass grades if you aren’t there. Is that true or just fans making stuff up to fit their angle?
 
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Jaws said:
I think the loss of Holloman, a proven SEC WR, in combination with a new OC, is a problem. They literally have no WR’s returning with any production at all. They’ll be okay against teams with average DB’s, but against teams with elite DB’s, they will struggle. If we’re being fair though, we have to recognize that they have 5 mammoths on the o-line and a very good RB in Swift and a very good QB. So they may just maul people with their run game and let Fromm pick his spots with a simple but effective passing game. But this is where I think the loss of Chaney as OC hurts them. Is the new OC shrewd enough to coordinate this? The other spot nobody talks about is backup QB. If Fromm turns an ankle, they are done. They would become almost purely a running team and even though they have great personnel for a run game, if SEC defenses do not fear a passing game, they will shut you down as a one-dimensional run team.

They’ve got issues.
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Losing a starting QB would hurt any team. Again, the fact that you’re dismissing incoming 5* WR is a bit telling of your bias. Receiver is one of, if not the, easiest position to make an impact as a freshman. Being a freshman didn’t stop AJ Green, Jerry Juedy, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Amari Cooper, and many others. Even D-Rob had 800 yards as a freshman. With Lawrence Cager and the 5* freshmen coming in, UGA should be fine.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Losing a starting QB would hurt any team. Again, the fact that you’re dismissing incoming 5* WR is a bit telling of your bias. Receiver is one of, if not the, easiest position to make an impact as a freshman. Being a freshman didn’t stop AJ Green, Jerry Juedy, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Amari Cooper, and many others. Even D-Rob had 800 yards as a freshman. With Lawrence Cager and the 5* freshmen coming in, UGA should be fine.
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I agree that being a productive Wideout as a freshman isn’t as difficult as most positions, 5star or not, he’s unproven . Good news is that ND, TENN, and USCjr are not until late September and then early October.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I agree that being a productive Wideout as a freshman isn’t as difficult as most positions, 5star or not, he’s unproven . Good news is that ND, TENN, and USCjr are not until late September and then early October.
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If I had to pick a position to have a frosh start at, it would be receiver. Pickens is UGA’s highest rated receiver since AJ Green and Blaylock is the second. While Holloman had more time in the system, both Pickens and Blaylock have a higher upside. I’m pretty sure ND is UGA’s second game, so we should see how they measure up fairly early.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Losing a starting QB would hurt any team. Again, the fact that you’re dismissing incoming 5* WR is a bit telling of your bias. Receiver is one of, if not the, easiest position to make an impact as a freshman. Being a freshman didn’t stop AJ Green, Jerry Juedy, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Amari Cooper, and many others. Even D-Rob had 800 yards as a freshman. With Lawrence Cager and the 5* freshmen coming in, UGA should be fine.
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Some 5* freshmen do just fine against most competition. They will not do fine against CJ Henderson, Lonnie Johnson, Marco Wilson, Greedy Williams, Trevon Diggs types. We’ll see soon enough.
 
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Jaws said:
Some 5* freshmen do just fine against most competition. They will not do fine against CJ Henderson, Lonnie Johnson, Marco Wilson, Greedy Williams, Trevon Diggs types. We’ll see soon enough.
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Jerry Jeudy did it against Greedy Williams and Justyn Ross did it against Trevon Diggs... Justyn Ross, a frosh, went 6 receptions for 153 yards and 1 TD against Trevon Diggs. Jerry Jeudy had 8 receptions for 103 yards against Greedy. So, again, 5* freshman receivers do fine against quality corners every year.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Jerry Jeudy did it against Greedy Williams and Justyn Ross did it against Trevon Diggs... Justyn Ross, a frosh, went 6 receptions for 153 yards and 1 TD against Trevon Diggs. Jerry Jeudy had 8 receptions for 103 yards against Greedy. So, again, 5* freshman receivers do fine against quality corners every year.
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Possibly. We could also find examples of 5* guys who have been shutdown completely. It just depends on perspective. Of course everyone would prefer to have experienced guys coming back at all positions. If you feel like you’re ready to enter battle with some great potential, albeit unproven, so be it. That’s where Georgia is at WR. They’ve got enough talent around them to handle most teams regardless. My opinion is that it will catch up to them at some point.
 
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Jaws said:
That 3-star kid you’re dismissing has ran multiple sub 4.4 forties at various UF camps. Watch his rankings climb now. And the other commit, Wingo, is a 4-star.

And I was wrong, UF is now 6th in the Rivals rankings... and climbing.
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June.
 
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Jaws said:
Possibly. We could also find examples of 5* guys who have been shutdown completely. It just depends on perspective. Of course everyone would prefer to have experienced guys coming back at all positions. If you feel like you’re ready to enter battle with some great potential, albeit unproven, so be it. That’s where Georgia is at WR. They’ve got enough talent around them to handle most teams regardless. My opinion is that it will catch up to them at some point.
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I just think it depends on who the freshman is replacing. If I had the choice of starting a proven elite receiver over a potential elite receiver, of course I would do that. In this case, there was no proven elite receiver. While Holloman was solid, I think we can both agree he wasn't elite. Pickens has the potential to be elite. Blaylock is a different type of receiver than Holloman, but was also more highly ranked. The benefit of good recruiting is being able to absorb blows like these.
 
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secking said:
You guys know more about his recruitment than me, but I’ve read he was suspended from campus? Hard to pass grades if you aren’t there. Is that true or just fans making stuff up to fit their angle?
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Same rumors heard around here. It just seems not only he won't qualify at UF, but just he simply wont qualify anywhere.
 
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ETV said:
It will be interesting to see what the dawgs offensive philosophy will be with Chaney gone and now a WR depth issue.
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Pound the rock, which is what their philosophy has been for a very long time. This isn't a big deal.
 
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Perspective on what Georgia has returning at WR:

Production from WR's returning in 2019:

Alabama= 201 rec 3,597 yards 38 TD's
Clemson= 214 rec 3,114 yards 30 TD's
Florida= 164 rec 2199 yds 22TDs
Oklahoma= 115 rec 2,030 yards 22 TD's
Ohio State= 139 rec 1,842 yards 13 TD's

Georgia= 13 rec 175 yards 2 TD's
 
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the way I see it, is his loss enough to cost them a game?
I don't see it.
He wasn't big time, if anything they already knew they were going to have to rely on new guys without a lot of production. now they are just going to have to rely on new guys without a lot of production. same ole same ole.

maybe if/when playoff territory or Championship level competition.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Holloman was the only proven receiver left after Ridley and Hardman left. UGA has talent at receiver, but it’s all unproven. D-Rob hasn’t done much and both Blaylock and Pickens arrived after the spring. The pick up of Cager as a grad transfer is looking like a good move now.
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Demetris Robertson is proven from his time at Cal pre transfer .. had to spend most of last year learning blocking schemes and the playbook. Cager, another transfer has a lot of experience but probably more of a short yardage and goal line threat. I am also curious to see what new OC James Coley does with this group. Unfortunate for Holloman who has an amazing skill set but just made a mistake and it cost him.
 
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