John Henderson

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Does anyone have a clue where he might end up at? I wish the Titans would get off their butt and sign him and then try to trade for Albert Haynesworth. Probaly would only take a 3rd round pick for big Al. I would love to watch them play on same line together again in the NFL. They would be unstoppable in the middle.
 
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Trying to get Haynesworth and Henderson would be a very poor decision for the Titans. The only way I would go for Haynesworth is if you could work it out that he played with a one-year contract (keeping him motivated) for a greatly reduced price. I wouldn't use a third round pick to get him though.

As for Henderson, if he could prove to you he was healthy enough to make a significant difference then I'd absolutely sign him. He doesn't seem to come with the same baggage that Haynesworth does.

I understand that for some UT fans this would be the ultimate d-line combination in the league and it would have been say 5 years ago, but this would be a bad decision for the Titans. These two are NOWHERE near the same caliber they were just a few years ago. Haynesworth has the talent but no drive and Henderson seems to have the drive but not the body to play at a high level anymore
 
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Haynesworth has the same drive now that Jamarcus Russel has. Until proven otherwise, Al will be the same until he has to work for a contract.
 
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I'll make this clear: There is no way that Tennessee will re-acquire Haynesworth. He burned every bridge imaginable getting out of there. He's also a pain in the butt to deal with off the field. John Henderson will find someone who will give him way too much money but it won't be the Titans. You've got to understand that Tennessee builds their team through the draft...there have been only two real spending sprees since this team landed in Nashville and one time we had to gut the roster to start all over again. The Titans will spend their money on bargain basement veterans to surround the young players on the team. If we aren't giving Chris Johnson an extension we won't be spending any money on John Henderson. It's about young players and low cost veterans. Maybe in a year when we come up short of the post season Adams will open up the wallet again!
 
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give_him 6 said:
The media here sure was. I heard him interviewed locally twice.
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Unfortunatly, the media should have asked Pioli what his interest where in John, because he nor the team have come out and said anything about their interest in John.
 
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He doesn't have as much of a motor anymore, has aged, and had a bit of a practice problem IIRC


I expect him to be signed by someone later before the season starts - someone will give him a chance - but by no means is he currently a hot commodity
 
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volswillrise12 said:
I'll make this clear: There is no way that Tennessee will re-acquire Haynesworth. He burned every bridge imaginable getting out of there. He's also a pain in the butt to deal with off the field. John Henderson will find someone who will give him way too much money but it won't be the Titans. You've got to understand that Tennessee builds their team through the draft...there have been only two real spending sprees since this team landed in Nashville and one time we had to gut the roster to start all over again. The Titans will spend their money on bargain basement veterans to surround the young players on the team. If we aren't giving Chris Johnson an extension we won't be spending any money on John Henderson. It's about young players and low cost veterans. Maybe in a year when we come up short of the post season Adams will open up the wallet again!
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As a Titans fan I have mixed emotions about this style since it has worked wonderfully some years and not at all other seasons.
 
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volswillrise12 said:
I'll make this clear: There is no way that Tennessee will re-acquire Haynesworth. He burned every bridge imaginable getting out of there. He's also a pain in the butt to deal with off the field. John Henderson will find someone who will give him way too much money but it won't be the Titans. You've got to understand that Tennessee builds their team through the draft...there have been only two real spending sprees since this team landed in Nashville and one time we had to gut the roster to start all over again. The Titans will spend their money on bargain basement veterans to surround the young players on the team. If we aren't giving Chris Johnson an extension we won't be spending any money on John Henderson. It's about young players and low cost veterans. Maybe in a year when we come up short of the post season Adams will open up the wallet again!
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1) the reason noone (including the titans) are getting Haynesworth is because Washington -Shanahan mainly - said they were not going to trade him and they actually meant it

2)Bud Adams is not the one who controls offseason signings and spendings. Read up a bit on how front offices work and who's in charge of what, especially in the Titans case
 
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Originally Posted by volswillrise12 View Post
I'll make this clear: There is no way that Tennessee will re-acquire Haynesworth. He burned every bridge imaginable getting out of there. He's also a pain in the butt to deal with off the field. John Henderson will find someone who will give him way too much money but it won't be the Titans. You've got to understand that Tennessee builds their team through the draft...there have been only two real spending sprees since this team landed in Nashville and one time we had to gut the roster to start all over again. The Titans will spend their money on bargain basement veterans to surround the young players on the team. If we aren't giving Chris Johnson an extension we won't be spending any money on John Henderson. It's about young players and low cost veterans. Maybe in a year when we come up short of the post season Adams will open up the wallet again!
1) the reason noone (including the titans) are getting Haynesworth is because Washington -Shanahan mainly - said they were not going to trade him and they actually meant it

2)Bud Adams is not the one who controls offseason signings and spendings. Read up a bit on how front offices work and who's in charge of what, especially in the Titans case
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1) Don't think for a second that the Redskins didn't consider moving him after he refused to move to nose tackle and then skipped all voluntary workout with the Redskins.

2) Bud Adams doesn't control all the offseason signings and spendings? He's the owner son, he writes the checks! Maybe you don't watch football enough out in Chattanooga but the man basically told Fisher he had to start VY last year and bench Collins after he started 0-6---maybe you are the one that needs the education!
 
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The reason why Henderson's production has gone down is because physically he has very little left in the tank. The intensity he brought every snap has caught up with him. His knees are barely hanging on now.
 
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volswillrise12 said:
1) Don't think for a second that the Redskins didn't consider moving him after he refused to move to nose tackle and then skipped all voluntary workout with the Redskins.

2) Bud Adams doesn't control all the offseason signings and spendings? He's the owner son, he writes the checks! Maybe you don't watch football enough out in Chattanooga but the man basically told Fisher he had to start VY last year and bench Collins after he started 0-6---maybe you are the one that needs the education!
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first off, I wasn't insulting you; I'm saying that you need to read up a bit more on how the Front Office of an NFL team works; they are the ones more responsible for the signings

If you took it as an insult, I apologize, but you misunderstood.

Now, back to the points:

1) I followed the whole Haynesworth thing; they shopped him as "could be traded" for about a week. After that, Shanahan - who is and Head coach for that team and Executive Vice President of Football Operations- came out and said they weren't trading him and that was it. And that was it; all the trade talk died except for rumors on the titans boards, though even Fisher came out and said as well they wouldn't be trading for him. After they didn't get the offers they wanted - something most likely along the lines of 1st rounders - they revoked the offer and stopped shopping him

(2 is on the next post)
 
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volswillrise12 said:
2) Bud Adams doesn't control all the offseason signings and spendings? He's the owner son, he writes the checks! Maybe you don't watch football enough out in Chattanooga but the man basically told Fisher he had to start VY last year and bench Collins after he started 0-6---maybe you are the one that needs the education!
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2) I have followed this team for years. That's not though how signing free agents or players works. In the NFL, it's the front office that goes after free agents and makes offers. This is the General Manager's - or GM -responsibility. In the Titan's front office, that's Mike Reinfeldt.

The Titans though have a unique situation Head Coach Jeff Fisher has elevated powers in dealings with his players, making a situation where both Reinfeldt and Fisher work together on draft picks, signings, and contract values/offers. The FO makes the signing offers to free agents; when you're talking about not opening up the wallet, that refers to people like Reinfeldt who make the offers on the contract values, not Adams. He doesn't meet with these free agents nor is he involved in the contract negotiations.


Now for what you just said: yes, I am well aware he was involved in the Vince Young stuff, both in 2006 and this last year; outside of that though, he's not very involved in the team's dealings and moves: he pretty much leaves it all up to Reinfeldt and Fisher

ESPN AFC South blogger Paul Kuharsky (a man who follows this team all year for the last few years) puts it best in his chat:
You dodged a question IMO (Internet):
Kevin (Nashville )PK, in your opinion is Bud Adams more akin to Al Davis or Mike Brown? I'm worried about his financial and mental commitment to his football interests.Paul Kuharsky (3:09 PM)Silliness. He's an absentee owner who asks only to be kept in the loop and pretty much lets Reinfeldt and Fisher do what they want....And who only makes a demand to switch starting QBs after his team goes 0-6. You always downplay the role and the seemingly declining mental acuity of Bud Adams but according to multiple interviews HE made the call to put VY back into the lineup last year and told Fisher "he better do it." That doesn't really sound like "hands off" to me. Are you going to reply with a brief, sarcastic remark or just a cowardly deflection?

Paul Kuharsky (4:01 PM)
Fisher made 1,000 moves last year and would have gotten to VY two weeks later. I'm sorry I don't see Bud, unsurprisingly asking for Vince to play, as akin to being some huge meddling owner. Name a move since 1999 not involving Vince that has his fingerprints on it?
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Kevin (Nashville )
PK, in your opinion is Bud Adams more akin to Al Davis or Mike Brown? I'm worried about his financial and mental commitment to his football interests.

Paul Kuharsky (3:09 PM)
Silliness. He's an absentee owner who asks only to be kept in the loop and pretty much lets Reinfeldt and Fisher do what they want.
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Adams writes the checks but he doesn’t micromanage; if you’re complaining about the team not opening up the wallet – that’s Reinfeldt’s (GM) department and somewhat Fisher’s, not Adams. That's how it works with this team and most NFL teams. The GM and FO are the ones who do those things.

So yes, I’d say I watch a lot of football down here in Chattanooga and in St. Louis, and have a pretty good understanding of the NFL, along with things that happen with this team
 
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volswillrise12 said:
As do I, my friend, as do I--and am well aware of Reinfeldt being the GM....
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then very good

he's the guy you need to be upset with about "not opening up the wallet"

as in the post above, Adams as owner pretty much lets them do what they want; save Vince Young, he doesn't really put his touch on the team and truly hasn't left his prints on much from 1999 to present
 
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