John McCain is a joke

[Tenn_Vol_Authority]

Sen. McCain Favors 'League of Democracies'

This guy apparently hasn't seen how successful the League of Nations was or how the current United Nations is operating.

Is this the best the GOP has?

Here is the money shot...

"We Americans must be willing to listen to the views and respect the collective will of our democratic allies," McCain says, according to excerpts his campaign provided.

In otherwords, kiss American sovereignty good bye...

And, McCain adds, an organization of democracies could pressure tyrants "with or without Moscow's and Beijing's approval" and could "impose sanctions on Iran and thwart its nuclear ambitions" while helping struggling democracies succeed.

Great, so that means we will only be at the mercy of France and Germany from now on...

 

[GAVol]

McCain is so desperately trying to get traction and it's just not there for him.

 

[CSpindizzy]

What's wrong with that? So Bush's "Coalition of the Willing" is any better? Basically filtering out the groups we've had issues with within the UN so we can collectively do something more with teeth?

I see this as something far better than what we have now and since none of the others have managed to go beyond focus group sound bites to offer substance, I congratulate McCain for being the one to offer something with more detail.

I find it humorous that without seeing the full details it has already been assumed we've given up our sovereignty. In case you missed it our current President has done more to muck up everything than any of his predecessors including his father.

 

[Tenn_Vol_Authority]

I see this as something far better than what we have now and since none of the others have managed to go beyond focus group sound bites to offer substance, I congratulate McCain for being the one to offer something with more detail.

I find it humorous that without seeing the full details it has already been assumed we've given up our sovereignty. In case you missed it our current President has done more to muck up everything than any of his predecessors including his father.

You are giving McCain too much credit. All he's doing is rehashing an 85-90 year old romantic idea about having a group of countries coming together and finding world peace. So idealistic. So naive. So often proved to be wrong (in the case of the League of Nations and countless UN blunders).

People that are willing to destroy democracies or republics do not care about UN initiatives or this other rosy crap! All they respect is the aggressive use of force.

 

[CSpindizzy]

Again, you have problems with McCain but Bush had his coalition of the willing. What's the difference? You are basing your view on some assumption of what this plan even amounts to. You have no idea what it will be and what sovereignty is even in question. I don't see how democracies and republics are destroyed. Perhaps you have some insight into McCain's mind. But you're assuming too much into this.

Again, I see nothing wrong with like-minded governments actually getting together to just bypass the red tape NATO, the UN, etc. deal with. Again, the US and UK and numerous other nations essentially already do this. But somehow you miss saying how we've lost our republican form of government especially with this coalition that went into Iraq.

 

[Tenn_Vol_Authority]

Again, you have problems with McCain but Bush had his coalition of the willing. What's the difference? You are basing your view on some assumption of what this plan even amounts to. You have no idea what it will be and what sovereignty is even in question. I don't see how democracies and republics are destroyed. Perhaps you have some insight into McCain's mind. But you're assuming too much into this.

Again, I see nothing wrong with like-minded governments actually getting together to just bypass the red tape NATO, the UN, etc. deal with. Again, the US and UK and numerous other nations essentially already do this. But somehow you miss saying how we've lost our republican form of government especially with this coalition that went into Iraq.

Well first off, I'm no fan of Bush. He has made planty of mistakes in Iraq and there are plenty of reasons to criticize him. You can throw all the bombs you want to about his coalition of the willing or what not. IMO, the idea of a "coalition" is our problem. I think that we don't need to find a compromise with anyone with matters that concern our national security. We are a strong enough country that we should be able to handle matters on our own and unilaterally. Bush (and McCain and about 90% of the other Dems and GOPers) want to find a consensus or try to negotiate a peace with people that are unreasonable negotiators. Bush has also been a little to willing to handcuff our soldiers while they are trying to fight a war with bureaucratic bravo sierra and threats of court marshals should they fire their weapons. It's just bogus. And the sad part is that a Dem would have been no better in handling this situation.

This Republic is spiraling towards a demise in the next 15-20 years and I don't see much of a chance that we will be able to halt its destruction.

Might as well let Hillary win in 2008 and end the misery...

 

[BigPapaVol]

This Republic is spiraling towards a demise in the next 15-20 years and I don't see much of a chance that we will be able to halt its destruction.

That's a strong statement. Only way for this to happen is for a financial disaster that wipes out our real strength in the world.

 

[Tenn_Vol_Authority]

That's a strong statement. Only way for this to happen is for a financial disaster that wipes out our real strength in the world.

Or universal health care, an apathetic populace, and weak border security.

 

[champyvol]

That's a strong statement. Only way for this to happen is for a financial disaster that wipes out our real strength in the world.

so basically we are one successful terrorist attack away involving oil for the end. i'm sorry to say it will happen and oil will be at 10 bucks a gallon and our government will do its normal. nothing.

 

[CSpindizzy]

McCain is showing a nice surge in polls in SC, IA, and NH. If he does win all three you can see a huge gain in momentum going into Super Duper Tuesday. Giuliani is actually dropping in those polls. The closest Rudy comes to McCain in those three states is 7 points in IA. He's 3rd in NH and a very distant second in SC. This is from the American Research Group polls. Cook Political Report shows the nationwide numbers closing very fast...not that a nationwide poll means anything other than showing a very generalized trend.