Jonas Aidoo update?

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I wonder if he's not a RS candidate. Pretty sure he needs a good bit more weight and strength. Not sure the minutes will be there for him this year.
 
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I think he only just started practicing, so I assume it has to do with conditioning, and probably playing catchup from a scheme perspective as well.
 
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Willy14 said:
I thought of this as well, also is the rule still in place for college basketball that as soon as you play a minute in a game that it burns your redshirt? @cncchris33 @bleedingTNorange
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I believe so. Seems like they were taking a look at amending the rules, similar to how they did in football, but I’m not aware of it having been put in place. Football is 4 games (basically 33% of your reg. season schedule). For basketball, that would equate to about 10 games if it happened, which is a good number.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I believe so. Seems like they were taking a look at amending the rules, similar to how they did in football, but I’m not aware of it having been put in place. Football is 4 games (basically 33% of your reg. season schedule). For basketball, that would equate to about 10 games if it happened, which is a good number.
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So if that is still correct than really the only two that could still be eligible for a redshirt this season is Tamba (as expected) and Aidoo? Since Q played 4 minutes?
 
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Willy14 said:
Ah so then they get a medical RS. I just didn't understand the point of playing Q 4 minutes last night in mop up time against UTM. I thought maybe they were going to RS one of the freshman other than Tamba.
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I’m guessing that coaches are assuming the rule passes that is in place for football, and even if it isn’t this year it could be retroactive.
 
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CAVPUT said:
I wonder if he's not a RS candidate. Pretty sure he needs a good bit more weight and strength. Not sure the minutes will be there for him this year.
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Seems like tall skinny players remain tall skinny players. I don't really ever remember a basketball player transforming in any major way in college or even the NBA. Kevin Durant is probably the most prime example. You see football players come in and add 30 or 40 pounds but no hoops guys.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Seems like tall skinny players remain tall skinny players. I don't really ever remember a basketball player transforming in any major way in college or even the NBA. Kevin Durant is probably the most prime example. You see football players come in and add 30 or 40 pounds but no hoops guys.
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Dwight Howard. Hassan Whiteside. Giannis Antekhoweveryouspellit. Joel Embiid. Andrew Bynum.

Just a few that come to mind within the last 10 years or so.
 
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JelloPuddinPup said:
Dwight Howard. Hassan Whiteside. Giannis Antekhoweveryouspellit. Joel Embiid. Andrew Bynum.

Just a few that come to mind within the last 10 years or so.
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They were all well muscled early on with the kind of frame to get much stronger. Guys like Aidoo, Durant, Brandon Ingram, Pember, etc seem to never gain bulk.
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
I’m not sure when the picture I posted was from (I just googled), but Giannis weighed 190 his rookie year. He’s at 242 now.
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This is from the Celtics site pre-draft when he was 18. He was getting taller and bigger every year. He'd went from 6'6" 165 to 6'10" 205 from 15 to 18. His muscle mass framework was already in place as can be seen on his rookie card. Aidoo's going to be 19 in 3 weeks and doesn't look anything like Antetokounmpo did at the same age as far as muscle framework. Aidoo's biceps aren't much bigger than his lower forearm. But players can and do excel without putting on huge mass. Christian Wood is doing it right now on ESPN.

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VolArmy74 said:
They were all well muscled early on with the kind of frame to get much stronger. Guys like Aidoo, Durant, Brandon Ingram, Pember, etc seem to never gain bulk.
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You said "tall skinny players remain tall skinny players. I don't really ever remember a basketball player transforming in any major way in college or even the NBA."

I listed several that did exactly that. If you're only going to list the tall skinny guys that haven't done that then I suppose you're right. :p

Edit: The difference between NBA/NFL guys and their body composition is that 30lbs+ is -way- different on 6'2" than it is 6'10". Also a much different type of training to gain that muscle in specific areas. Football wants the size and strength with power, basketball wants the speed and agility with explosiveness.
 
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JelloPuddinPup said:
You said "tall skinny players remain tall skinny players. I don't really ever remember a basketball player transforming in any major way in college or even the NBA."

I listed several that did exactly that. If you're only going to list the tall skinny guys that haven't done that then I suppose you're right. :p

Edit: The difference between NBA/NFL guys and their body composition is that 30lbs+ is -way- different on 6'2" than it is 6'10". Also a much different type of training to gain that muscle in specific areas. Football wants the size and strength with power, basketball wants the speed and agility with explosiveness.
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You didn't though. You listed guys that had muscled framework even right out of high school, that added more muscle. Dwight Howard was a hugely muscled guy as a rookie for instance. I listed guys who were built like Aidoo at 19 instead of guys who may have been skinny at 15. 19 year old Giannas there already had a muscular build. I don't see that framework/body type in Aidoo.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
You didn't though. You listed guys that had muscled framework even right out of high school, that added more muscle. Dwight Howard was a hugely muscled guy as a rookie for instance. I listed guys who were built like Aidoo at 19 instead of guys who may have been skinny at 15. 19 year old Giannas there already had a muscular build. I don't see that framework/body type in Aidoo.
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If you're only going to look at action shots of high level athletes then most anyone will look muscular. I can pull up a google image search of Jonas Aidoo and see well defined shoulders and biceps as he goes up with the ball.

Each one of those guys I listed -dramatically- changed their bodies after high school. They were all tall and skinny (except maybe Bynum). Yes, they had a frame capable of adding weight but so do all of the other players you listed. They just have different goals, pursuits and workouts. Their games don't benefit from the changed bodies and that kind of size on the perimeter isn't beneficial. Jonas is a post player, he should be compared to the players I listed, not Durant/Ingram/etc. Completely different approach to body comp there.
 
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