Karen Santorum

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Couldn't find this posted already, if it has I apologize.

Mrs. Santorum's Abortion Doctor Boyfriend - The Daily Beast

But Mrs. Santorum, 51, apparently wasn’t always committed to the cause. In fact, her live-in partner through most of her 20s was Tom Allen, a Pittsburgh obstetrician and abortion provider 40 years older than she, who remains an outspoken crusader for reproductive rights and liberal ideals. Dr. Allen has known Mrs. Santorum, born Karen Garver, her entire life: he delivered her in 1960.
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Surprised this isn't all over the news. She dated an abortion doctor 40 years her senior, who, by the way, delivered her.
 
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I can see the potential issue with her changing her stance over a 20 year period and it is creepy but why should this matter at all?
 
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Hate Santorum, but I don't think this matters. It may not be in the news much, because nobody knows who she is. Nobody knows who any of the candidates wives are.
 
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volinbham said:
I can see the potential issue with her changing her stance over a 20 year period and it is creepy but why should this matter at all?
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It doesn't. But it is just the kind of thing that the news likes to focus on. I'm wondering if Romney is holding this until the thinks he really needs it.

Guy was 20 years older, they lived together, he delivered her, he is an abortion rights activist, she is now a loud pro-life spokesperson...like LG said, it is just creepy and weird on so many levels.
 
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Obamas connections to terrorist gets over looked but a 20 year old relationship of a candidates wife is covered. This is laughable and pathetic. FYI this came out a while back and was a topic for a very brief period.
 
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VOLFAN_MTSUALUM said:
Obamas connections to terrorist gets over looked but a 20 year old relationship of a candidates wife is covered. This is laughable and pathetic. FYI this came out a while back and was a topic for a very brief period.
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Please, go on about the terror connections. Start a new thread though so we dont hijack this one
 
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I believed lots of things 20yrs ago that I don't anymore. People change and to even bring this up is ridiculous
 
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Tells me she came to her pro-life views with a complete understanding of the pro-choice position.
 
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Not going to change my opinion of Santorum one way or the other, but that is a really creepy story.
 
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rjd970 said:
Did you think the Ayers thing was ridiculous to bring up with Obama?
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If Karen Santorum were the candidate it would be much more relevant.

Obama was the candidate so the Ayers thing was worth exploring; particularly given the lack of a public record of votes/comments from Obama himself.
 
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I challenge you to find anyone who is over the age of 40 and hasn't at some point when very young been associated with someone they now regret or at least no longer identify with. And if you find such a person, I'd like to know where they were in their 20 year coma and did they talk to Elvis.

I don't care who Karen Santorum was blowing before she met Ricky. That isn't going to have anything to do with anything.
 
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volinbham said:
If Karen Santorum were the candidate it would be much more relevant.

Obama was the candidate so the Ayers thing was worth exploring; particularly given the lack of a public record of votes/comments from Obama himself.
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Not the point of the question. It was stated that we believe stuff 20 years ago we don't believe now. Obama was questioned, then said he didn't hold those views. The press still ran the story and he was questioned on it over and over again.

Just like with the Ayers thing, I don't think this matters one bit. It was 20 years ago.

As a matter of point, the Santorum campaign is refusing to comment.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I challenge you to find anyone who is over the age of 40 and hasn't at some point when very young been associated with someone they now regret or at least no longer identify with. And if you find such a person, I'd like to know where they were in their 20 year coma and did they talk to Elvis.

I don't care who Karen Santorum was blowing before she met Ricky. That isn't going to have anything to do with anything.
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I certainly could not run for any significant office - too many people I'd have to "neutralize" first.

That said, I think an examination of Obama's relationship to Bill Ayers was warranted given Ayers' views, the little we knew about Obama and the gravity of the office. Because there isn't a strong relationship between the two and we have his record as POTUS to look at, the Ayers connection is now irrelevant.
 
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rjd970 said:
Not the point of the question. It was stated that we believe stuff 20 years ago we don't believe now. Obama was questioned, then said he didn't hold those views. The press still ran the story and he was questioned on it over and over again.

Just like with the Ayers thing, I don't think this matters one bit. It was 20 years ago.

As a matter of point, the Santorum campaign is refusing to comment.
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But it's apples and oranges - you can't ignore the fact that Obama was the candidate and what he believed or did in the past is at least worthy of examination.

Most of the press let the Ayers thing go as soon as it became apparent they didn't have a tight relationship. I think it was relevant to examine (see explanations in other posts) but now is irrelevant.
 
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volinbham said:
I certainly could not run for any significant office - too many people I'd have to "neutralize" first.

That said, I think an examination of Obama's relationship to Bill Ayers was warranted given Ayers' views, the little we knew about Obama and the gravity of the office. Because there isn't a strong relationship between the two and we have his record as POTUS to look at, the Ayers connection is now irrelevant.
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Should have been irrelevant after he dismissed of it, if we are following the same standard. But it wasn't.

Like I said, I couldn't care less. But this just seems like something another campaign or the press would run with, even after it was addressed. It's the appearance of blatant hypocrisy of a possible first lady that is the story.
 
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volinbham said:
But it's apples and oranges - you can't ignore the fact that Obama was the candidate and what he believed or did in the past is at least worthy of examination.

Most of the press let the Ayers thing go as soon as it became apparent they didn't have a tight relationship. I think it was relevant to examine (see explanations in other posts) but now is irrelevant.
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Agreed, but after he addressed it one would think it would have stopped there. Truth is it didn't.

Just like the right wing outlets pounded Obama on Ayers, I can see the left nutjobs stretching this to poound Santorum's campaign shoule he get the nomination.

Both on non-stories IMO.
 
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volinbham said:
I certainly could not run for any significant office - too many people I'd have to "neutralize" first.

That said, I think an examination of Obama's relationship to Bill Ayers was warranted given Ayers' views, the little we knew about Obama and the gravity of the office. Because there isn't a strong relationship between the two and we have his record as POTUS to look at, the Ayers connection is now irrelevant.
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There really ought to just be one depository for such theories on the internet, one huge Manchurian Candidate circle jerk. Whether its Secret Agent Muslim, not an American citizen, secret commie, militant black power dude, whatever.

I think it would be cathartic.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I challenge you to find anyone who is over the age of 40 and hasn't at some point when very young been associated with someone they now regret or at least no longer identify with. And if you find such a person, I'd like to know where they were in their 20 year coma and did they talk to Elvis.

I don't care who Karen Santorum was blowing before she met Ricky. That isn't going to have anything to do with anything.
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Yeah, I used to play poker with a lawyer, I couldn't run for dog catcher.
 
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